JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
First orbit, no reads, but this table in general has been fairly loose. Also, what do you think of the PFR with jacks in EP? I feel like too often I build pots OOP with hands that can get difficult to play postflop.
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter SB (t1480) BB (t1020) UTG (t1460) Hero (t1460) UTG+2 (t2180) MP1 (t820) MP2 (t1900) MP3 (t1420) CO (t1560) Button (t1700) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, MP3 calls t80, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>. Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> Hero... |
Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
Obviously check fold the flop. I like limping preflop, but some like a raise.
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Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
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Obviously check fold the flop. I like limping preflop, but some like a raise. [/ QUOTE ] That was originally going to be my plan. I also though about making a smallish CB, closer to 1/2-2/3 pot, but figured that against 3 opponents, it would be too difficult to play on the turn, because while a call could mean a K, it could also mean a flush draw. Here's what I did: Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t45</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t45. I figured that getting 9:1 with the possibility that my hand was good, and since MP2 and MP3 dropped out, I could peel one off, I doubt that anyone disagrees with that. My question is, when the turn blanks, what do you do? Turn: (t440) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero... |
Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
Usually check fold again. Unless he makes another freakishly small bet.
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Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
Not having the J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hurts your hand more than most people realize.
Anyway, I think you can either lead or c-raise this turn, depending on how those games play and what is most likely to achieve your desired reaction from MP1. |
Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
Check? Never heard of it.
Turn: (t440) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t220</font>, MP1 calls t220. River: (t880) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero... |
Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
That was a bad move.
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Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
Check fold.....again.
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Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
Also, on the flop, granted you are getting great odds, you have to consider that MP1 was willing to bet into 3 opponents. That in itself indicates strength. I don't even think I'd call the flop bet. There is a very good chance you only have 2 outs.
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Re: JJ OOP against half the [censored] table
I checked, villain checked behind and showed 77, MHIG. This hand felt really awkard, but I felt like I might have done something right at some point here, although I wasn't sure what it was.
Clearly, I butchered the hand, thanks for your insight. |
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Also, on the flop, granted you are getting great odds, you have to consider that MP1 was willing to bet into 3 opponents. That in itself indicates strength. I don't even think I'd call the flop bet. There is a very good chance you only have 2 outs. [/ QUOTE ] I should have mentioned that this is a 10+1, so I wouldn't give my opponent too much credit. Also, folding to that bet just seemed incredibly weak. |
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but I felt like I might have done something right at some point here [/ QUOTE ] ... well you did check the flop... I'm kidding, but you did mess this hand up. Raise pf is fine if you're comfortable playing a raised pot with JJ oop. You might not be, so maybe consider limping. Flop is a check fold, but to that small bet sticking around is fine. Like splashpot said, turn is a check fold unless it's really small again. Your turn bet is really bad. Depending on how you got to the river, that K is a great card so I might call a small amount, but it totally depends on turn action when you don't bet. |
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