Hellmuth vs eugeneel 200-400
 

OK,

I'm an idiot for filling my time with this, but I'm watching the Poker Brat get trounced at various high-limit games HU. They're playing Holdem now, and this hand cracked me up. Phil rarely puts in this many bets on the flop.


Hand #9654253-10319 at Livorno ($200/$400 Hold'em)
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Started at 02/Dec/05 04:34:12

PhilHellmuth is at seat 0 with $8089.50.
eugeneel is at seat 1 with $17885.
The button is at seat 0.

PhilHellmuth posts the small blind of $100.
eugeneel posts the big blind of $200.

PhilHellmuth: -- --
eugeneel: -- --

Pre-flop:

PhilHellmuth calls. eugeneel checks.

Flop (board: 8c 3d 2d):

eugeneel bets $200. PhilHellmuth raises to $400.
eugeneel re-raises to $600. PhilHellmuth re-raises to
$800. eugeneel re-raises to $1000. PhilHellmuth
re-raises to $1200. eugeneel calls.

Turn (board: 8c 3d 2d 5s):

eugeneel bets $400. PhilHellmuth calls.

River (board: 8c 3d 2d 5s 8s):

eugeneel checks. PhilHellmuth checks.



Showdown:

eugeneel shows 3s 2s.
eugeneel has 3s 8c 3d 5s 8s: two pair, eights and threes.
PhilHellmuth mucks cards.


Hand #9654253-10319 Summary:

$.50 is raked from a pot of $3600.
eugeneel wins $3599.50 with two pair, eights and threes.
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Re: Hellmuth vs eugeneel 200-400
 

50 cent rake, thats insane.

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I'd like to give hime credit for 45d, but somehow I doubt it....

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It's gotta be nut flush draw.... but even so.... A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

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It's gotta be nut flush draw.... but even so.... A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

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no way he open completes preflop with an A.

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It's gotta be nut flush draw.... but even so.... A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

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no way he open completes preflop with an A.

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maybe he did so eugeneel wouln't fold a hand like 23 and phil could outplay him on the flop

oh wait

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On flop you'd think he has a combination of [Ad, 4d, 5d], but all of them would have won on the river. maybe he had the flush draw with the 8d?

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You can 5-bet on HU tables at UB?

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You can 5-bet on HU tables at UB?

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pretty sure unlimited raising.

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It's gotta be nut flush draw.... but even so.... A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

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no way he open completes preflop with an A.

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Are you sure? It's Phil Hellmuth. He has ALL the glory, titles, and ALL the mobney.

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It's gotta be nut flush draw.... but even so.... A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]???

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no way he open completes preflop with an A.

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The way Phil plays heads up limit can be strange to say the least. I've seen him limp/call from the button with hands like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] before.

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You can 5-bet on HU tables at UB?

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pretty sure unlimited raising.

[/ QUOTE ]No. It is either a 6 or 8 bet cap. I'm pretty sure it's a 6 bet cap.

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Pre-flop:

stockmaker folds. cratippus folds. RQFT folds.
tapemeasure raises to $300. neon hippo folds. 42DD
folds. robopok folds. PhilHellmuth calls.

Flop (board: 6c Qh Ts):

PhilHellmuth checks. tapemeasure bets $150.
PhilHellmuth calls.

Turn (board: 6c Qh Ts 2h):

PhilHellmuth checks. tapemeasure bets $300.
PhilHellmuth raises to $600. tapemeasure re-raises to
$900. PhilHellmuth calls.

River (board: 6c Qh Ts 2h 6s):

PhilHellmuth checks. tapemeasure checks.



Showdown:

PhilHellmuth shows 2c Kc.
PhilHellmuth has 2c Kc 6c 2h 6s: two pair, sixes and deuces.
tapemeasure shows Jc Th.
tapemeasure has Th 6c Qh Ts 6s: two pair, tens and sixes.


Hand #9973431-2377 Summary:

$3 is raked from a pot of $2775.
tapemeasure wins $2772 with two pair, tens and sixes.
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Re: Hellmuth vs eugeneel 200-400
 

Come on, no Hellmuth hand history is complete without the post-hand chat transcript.

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hellmuth is one of the top players in my database ranked by $won/hand from

Barron

Re: Hellmuth vs eugeneel 200-400
 

He's still going (2-4 Omaha). How long's this been going, is eugene up or down?

Re: Hellmuth vs eugeneel 200-400
 

I think eugene is up like a little bit over every game they've played. Last night they played almost every game UB offers.

Pretty funny.

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I'd like to give hime credit for 45d, but somehow I doubt it....

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its also impossible. So good intuition there.

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What's the big deal? Phil played this one good, IMO, unless he had a busted straight flush draw, in which case he should bet the river to hopefully fold another flush draw. I suspect Phil had a big enough diamond draw that he thought it might be good. Actually, the fact that the turn went the way it did would suggest that eugene has a real hand and not a draw, so Phil knows that he's not folding, so giving up is fine. The fact that he doesn't give that kind of action often makes it even better. This is a high stakes headsup game, and while Phil is usually live, this wasn't the case here.

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What's the big deal? Phil played this one good, IMO, unless he had a busted straight flush draw, in which case he should bet the river to hopefully fold another flush draw. I suspect Phil had a big enough diamond draw that he thought it might be good. The fact that he doesn't give that kind of action often makes it even better.

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its impossible for phil to have flopped a straight flush draw that isn't good on that board on the river. A6d is my guess.

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Hi J.A.,

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I suspect Phil had a big enough diamond draw that he thought it might be good.

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Then he made a fairly dumb open-limp from the button. As others have pointed out, any straight flush draw on the flop wins on the end. He probably did have T9d or so, and was thinking 2 OCs + flush draw value. When eugene checks the river, he obviously hates it. I thought he had busted draw at that point, and in Hellmuth's spot I would've fired one more shell in case he did; you'd have to ask eugene, but as tightly as Phil plays HU, I could see eugene laying down in this spot, even though it's just one more bet in a big pot.