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12-01-2005 06:02 AM

Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
He saw me playing on pokerroom at the beginning of the year. He looked at my SSHE book that I told him to read, but rejected it when another person (strictly a NL player, mind you) told him that books were for tools. He now tells me that "all the money is in heads up matches" and he's "glad (he) didn't sign up for party poker because (he) heard from, like, 10 people that that site is juiced. Bodog is legit though dude." Give me a good argument so I can tell him why online poker is not rigged. He won't accept my arguments, mostly cause I dont have any facts to back them up. Just the basics, and thanks in advance.

And yes, I want to convince him it isn't rigged. I have to keep him in the circulation, no?

edfurlong 12-01-2005 06:10 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
No.

tonypaladino 12-01-2005 06:31 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Sign up on Bodog and play him HU

tigerite 12-01-2005 06:33 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
He's a morean. Not worth your time.

housenuts 12-01-2005 06:57 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
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He's a morean.

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is that a cross between korean and moran?

MarkL444 12-01-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
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He's a morean. Not worth your time.

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i agree with this (except the spelling)

from what little i know about your roommate after reading that post he sounds like he wont understand, or even try to.

tigerite 12-01-2005 07:07 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
It was spelt as morean for a reason.. come on I know the real spelling is moron!

PartySNGer 12-01-2005 07:08 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Here is an easy way:

Put 4 red balls in a bag and one green. Have him pick from the bag about 20 times. After he sees how often he gets a green ball he will no longer go nuts when AA loses all in PF.

scrapperdog 12-01-2005 07:10 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
What is his screen name please!!

Webster 12-01-2005 08:14 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Tell him to go to this blog called Is Online Poker Safe?

http://pokersafety.blogspot.com/

BTW - A lot of people think Party is rigged because that can not win. He is not goingto be a winner at Poker - don't bother with him as you will never convert him.

12-01-2005 08:53 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Agree with Webster, I read that blog every time it's updated, and it's always a great read. Party just plays differently than other sites I've been at. But that's because it's a different playerbase, not because their software gives everyone else but me good cards.

FlFishOn 12-01-2005 10:01 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
"He won't accept my arguments, mostly cause I dont have any facts to back them up."

That's OK. No one does.

Blanket belief in the honesty of online poker is just like being a born again Christian. Ya just gotta take it on faith.

TheHammer24 12-01-2005 10:33 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
I wouldn't bother.

Or I'd play him HU.

BruinEric 12-01-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Whenever you have a discussion, make sure to set the understanding that you are only "defending" the larger poker sites. Assure him that you agree there is more risk at small online casinos ... because anyone reading the CASINOMEISTER website sees that there are problem companies.

What can often happen is that you are speaking/thinking of powerhouses like PokerStars, PokerRoom, PartyPoker, etc. which have reputations on the line in the entire (incl. "live") poker scene. And they are thinking of the set of all online casino and poker room operators. There is a huge difference in credibility between PokerStars and "Fred's Backyard Poker Site."

When some people (not all) are convinced a site is rigged, it is very hard to convince them otherwise because they have spent weeks/months only seeing evidence to support their belief.

Many people say "don't even bother dude," but for every "IT'S RIIIIGGGGEEDDD" zealot are a few new, casual players who see the rumors in online poker table chat boxes and become concerned.

Many of us posting on this forum are technically-savvy, and it is easy to forget that lots of people playing online poker for fun are not nerds who know anything about RNGs, algorithms, or how complex/unprofitable/risky/stupid rigging dealt hands might be. They go to work at Widget Factory Co and come home and play a few hands a week. So it isn't unreasonable for many of those people to worry when they hear speculation and gossip from wild-eyed poker chatters who sure sound like they know what they're talking about.

MrBlueNose 12-01-2005 11:24 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Would you like us to feed you your dinner too? Do your own damn work

Wes ManTooth 12-01-2005 01:13 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
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It was spelt as morean for a reason.. come on I know the real spelling is moron!

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except in OOT were it is clearly "moran"

The Truth 12-01-2005 02:14 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
so, you are telling me that poker is NOT rigged?

is this right?

blake

zaphod 12-01-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Ask gabyyyyy to convince him.

12-01-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Show him your stats.

Then show him your tools.

gabyyyyy 12-01-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
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Ask gabyyyyy to convince him.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

DeadMoneyOC 12-01-2005 08:18 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
How funny, I play primary on PR and my roommate just started playing HU matchs on Bodog. Oh, and btw if anything its the other way around and Bodog is juiced and party is 'legit'

BeantownCaller 12-01-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
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How funny, I play primary on PR and my roommate just started playing HU matchs on Bodog. Oh, and btw if anything its the other way around and Bodog is juiced and party is 'legit'

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Hahaha, i was gonna say the same thing.

Hero dealt AA at 200NL. Raises preflop. Flop 9TK. Ewww.. hero bets, villain pushes HARD. Hero recalls recent shenanigans villain pulls and pushes over the top. Villain calls with JQ..duh. Turn Ace. River Ace. Hero and buddy rejoice.

moral of the story, bodog is juiced [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

radek2166 12-01-2005 10:43 PM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
[ QUOTE ]
He saw me playing on pokerroom at the beginning of the year. He looked at my SSHE book that I told him to read, but rejected it when another person (strictly a NL player, mind you) told him that books were for tools. He now tells me that "all the money is in heads up matches" and he's "glad (he) didn't sign up for party poker because (he) heard from, like, 10 people that that site is juiced. Bodog is legit though dude." Give me a good argument so I can tell him why online poker is not rigged. He won't accept my arguments, mostly cause I dont have any facts to back them up. Just the basics, and thanks in advance.

And yes, I want to convince him it isn't rigged. I have to keep him in the circulation, no?

[/ QUOTE ]

Y do u HAVE TO?

Newt_Buggs 12-02-2005 01:23 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
I gave up on my roommates.

smartalecc5 12-02-2005 01:27 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
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Ask gabyyyyy to convince him.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Greg J 12-02-2005 01:30 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
Tell him to come to the computer right now. I'm serious. Go get him and tell him to come here, and scroll down.










































































You are a moron.

EDITED TO ADD: And you suck at poker.

12-02-2005 01:31 AM

Re: Roomate now on bodog...help me convince him online isn\'t rigged.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here is an easy way:

Put 4 red balls in a bag and one green. Have him pick from the bag about 20 times. After he sees how often he gets a green ball he will no longer go nuts when AA loses all in PF.

[/ QUOTE ]

i lost 5 straight times all in preflop with AA [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


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