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AZK 11-30-2005 05:42 PM

Forum Split
 
Hey all,

I was going to ask mat to make another NL forum, but first just wanted to clear it with everyone. This isn't really going to have any impact on MHNL, and is mostly for SSNL. I feel like this would make the most sense, but I'm open to suggestions. I don't think splitting the forums 6max vs full vs hu, or live vs online makes much sense. At the same time, some of the 5/10 hands could just as easily be .5/1 hands, so what do you all think:

Small: 1/2 NL and lower
Mid: 2/4 NL - 5/10 NL online (5/10 basic concepts, obvious answers due to stack sizes, etc...)
High: 5/10 (deep stacks, live play) and higher


Eh?

yvesaint 11-30-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
works for me, 2/4 has always been the child no ones wanted

evil_twin 11-30-2005 05:47 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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works for me, 2/4 has always been the child no ones wanted

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FWIW, I concur, and will make the effort to post a few more hands in the mid limit forum.

slickpoppa 11-30-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
Looks good, but let's clarify that 5-10 only belongs in high stakes if it is deep stacked, not just deep stacked OR live as your post may have suggested.

flawless_victory 11-30-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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Looks good, but let's clarify that 5-10 only belongs in high stakes if it is deep stacked, not just deep stacked OR live as your post may have suggested.

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yawn.
im sure it will work out fine.

slickpoppa 11-30-2005 05:50 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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Looks good, but let's clarify that 5-10 only belongs in high stakes if it is deep stacked, not just deep stacked OR live as your post may have suggested.

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yawn.
im sure it will work out fine.

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Its not a big deal, but the point is that the skill level of a normal live 5-10 game is on par with a 1-2 internet game.

flawless_victory 11-30-2005 05:51 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
true story

slickpoppa 11-30-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
[ QUOTE ]
true story

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Why don't you get a little more smarmy with your responses, its very charming.

AZK 11-30-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
smarmy?

TheWorstPlayer 11-30-2005 05:55 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
[ QUOTE ]
smarmy?

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smarmy.

Big_Jim 11-30-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
Sounds good. 1/2 could probably go either way, too.

AZK 11-30-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
learn something new everyday.

AZK 11-30-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
The thought of 1/2 even being considered 'mid' is laughable.

Big_Jim 11-30-2005 06:00 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
If the primary point of the split is to reduce the traffic in the Small Stakes forum, this would go a long way towards that goal.

Although... you're probably right.

flawless_victory 11-30-2005 06:01 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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The thought of 1/2 even being considered 'mid' is laughable.

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i dont really care 2 much, but i think the mid stakes forum should revolve around 1/2 and 2/4 games.
leave the higher stuff here, no reason to kill this forum... we like it.
the SSNL forum sucks pretty bad (sry guys). i dont blame the thinking plyrs who are actually trying to improve and move up for not wanting to post trhere hands from online 200NL and 400NL there.

11-30-2005 06:02 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
I like this idea as the HL forum has gotten crowded, and the game changes drastically change as you go from 2/5 to 10/20 and especially the huge differences in live versus online play.



Tex

yvesaint 11-30-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
well yeah, i think 200 and 400 are in a group of their own. ive always considered 5/10 and up to be high

anyways, smarmy.

TheWorstPlayer 11-30-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
I think 5/10 can go either way. I think 1/2 can go either way. I wouldn't be averse to just making "Small", "Mid", and "High" forums and then just having it shake out however it shakes out.

Yeti 11-30-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
I propose.

Small : 1/2 and lower
Mid : 2/4, 3/6
High : 5/10 and higher.

Forget all the live/deep stuff. And I do think Party 5/10 belongs in this high section, just as long as people don't post dumb hands.

JMP300z 11-30-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
fwiw i like the idea.

ill try to post more 2/4 hands, i dont really post any now b/c i feel like some of the others, ss is kinda worthless, high stakes doesnt fit.

-JP

11-30-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
IMO 1/2 online belongs with 2/4 in the mid forum and 1/2 live belongs in small stakes.

flawless_victory 11-30-2005 06:08 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
wow, look at how this thread explodes at this hour, every1 is online.
some of u hos post some hands, i am bored waiting for my gf to get home w/ food.
i am also v hungry.

TheWorstPlayer 11-30-2005 06:11 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
Everyone is online because everyone is bored at the end of a day of work. But since everyone is still at work they cannot post hands.

lapoker17 11-30-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
You have a girlfriend?

flawless_victory 11-30-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
u guys work?
woah!!

jkkkk 11-30-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
While I agree 1/2 as mid stakes is laughable, I think 1/2 belongs with 2/4 as 3/6 is barely played, it would be the best way of controlling traffic imo.

Have 25nl-100nl as micro, 200-600/1000 as ssnl and higher as MH if it makes you feel better.

flawless_victory 11-30-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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You have a girlfriend?

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changed my mind.
i am ignoring u!

coltrane 11-30-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
your guidelines are fine AZK and would work great I'm sure....as you alluded to, sometimes things aren't so black and white because, for example, a 5/10 game with $400 stacks plays much lower than a 5/5 game with $2000 stacks....and then there are 3/5 games that have $200 capped buy-ins and stuff....so one alternate solution would be: instead of separating the forums by BLIND amounts, separate them by STACK amounts......i.e. - if average stack is $0-200 it is SSNL, $200-1000 is MSNL, $1000+ is HSNL.....the exact numbers are obviously debatable, but the idea is just a suggestion....

BobboFitos 11-30-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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your guidelines are fine AZK and would work great I'm sure....as you alluded to, sometimes things aren't so black and white because, for example, a 5/10 game with $400 stacks plays much lower than a 5/5 game with $2000 stacks....and then there are 3/5 games that have $200 capped buy-ins and stuff....so one alternate solution would be: instead of separating the forums by BLIND amounts, separate them by STACK amounts......i.e. - if average stack is $0-200 it is SSNL, $200-1000 is MSNL, $1000+ is HSNL.....the exact numbers are obviously debatable, but the idea is just a suggestion....

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I agree with coltrane. But make it 300 to 900 or so. So 5/10online goes on high, and everything else fits in mid, whereas 1/2 live is still small stakes.

BobboFitos 11-30-2005 06:16 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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You have a girlfriend?

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changed my mind.
i am ignoring u!

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Why'd you edit it?? damn...

did you follow that site tbg linked a while ago to escorts in houston?

billyjex 11-30-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
I like the plan. I find my 2/4 hands don't get good responses in SSNL. And it's also hard to find $400 hands buried between all the lower stakes hands.

chuddo 11-30-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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smarmy?

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DEREK
That smarmy [censored].

JOHN
What does that even mean, smarmy?

DEREK
It means like...effusively unctious.

JOHN
And that means...?

DEREK
It just means he is a [censored] jerkface.

xorbie 11-30-2005 06:21 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
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IMO 1/2 online belongs with 2/4 in the mid forum and 1/2 live belongs in small stakes.

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This is true. 1/2 plays more like 2/4 than .5/1. Mid stakes should be 1/2-3/6 which would really only move 3/6 out of MHNL and there aren't too many of those posts anyway (and they should be with 2/4).

greygoo 11-30-2005 06:23 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
[ QUOTE ]
I propose.

Small : 1/2 and lower
Mid : 2/4, 3/6
High : 5/10 and higher.

Forget all the live/deep stuff. And I do think Party 5/10 belongs in this high section, just as long as people don't post dumb hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

Matt Flynn 11-30-2005 06:25 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
Inflation's a bitch.

Have fun in High guys.

chuddo 11-30-2005 06:27 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I propose.

Small : 1/2 and lower
Mid : 2/4, 3/6
High : 5/10 and higher.

Forget all the live/deep stuff. And I do think Party 5/10 belongs in this high section, just as long as people don't post dumb hands.

[/ QUOTE ]

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and if someone is playing in a 1-2 game with 500 dollar stacks, that would be more apropos to mid.

yvesaint 11-30-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
why not just go by stack sizes, if you have 400-1000, thats mid, 1000+ thats high, less than 400 thats small

ansky451 11-30-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
Yeha, I have found very little difference between nl4 and nl6. 1/2 is noticebly different.

Yay for the split.

Big_Jim 11-30-2005 06:36 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
I call dibs on Mid Stakes NL Moderator position.

yvesaint 11-30-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Forum Split
 
i say we get flawless and El D to do it ...hilarity ensues [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


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