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bottomset 11-30-2005 05:23 PM

Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
UTG is 70/14 and very aggressive postflop

I had raised after he limped 3-4 times in the last 10hands before this one, so he is likely annoyed right now

comments on all streets appreciated

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Preflop: bottomset is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">bottomset raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, bottomset calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, bottomset calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5.66 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, bottomset calls.

River: (7.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, bottomset calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

imported_CaseClosed326 11-30-2005 05:28 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
Raise Turn or river, and call down if 3bet.

CourtJester 11-30-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
If he was annoyed, he might play back at you somewhere with at little as JTs, and i dont think hes letting this go, so maybe a raise could be in order, on the turn i think is best, but calling down when you're mostly good, and dont risk getting annoyed at his 3bet should be a fine line aswell

Alobar 11-30-2005 05:42 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
I raise the flop

JerseyTom 11-30-2005 05:47 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I raise the flop

[/ QUOTE ]

Me too. I want to see how much BB likes his hand and how donkey responds to a flop raise.


Tom

11-30-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
Recently LRRs have shown me pretty big hands - aces or kings. Occationally if I've been raising a lot 6-handed games I'll get a LRR with AXs ... but for the most part I'm seeing pretty good hands.

Am i the only one?

imported_CaseClosed326 11-30-2005 05:51 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
Normal people LRR with with big hands. This guy is not normal there is no reason to believe he has a big hand.

POKhER 11-30-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
I like letting him bluff all the way to river, NH.

A raise will freeze up KK,
A raise will get your 3bet by AA(QQ/JJ).

"I had raised after he limped 3-4 times in the last 10hands before this one, so he is likely annoyed right now" Haha!!! Love it.

11-30-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
I like it.

11-30-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
"I had raised after he limped 3-4 times in the last 10hands before this one, so he is likely annoyed right now"

Wouldn't he be thinking "I'm going to limp with a good hand so I can pop him with aces, AK, AQ ..." rather than "That does it! Im raising with crap just to hurt him!"

btw, I would raise this flop ... but maybe something can be said for letting him bluff his money away &amp; saving money from an extra raise when he does have us beat badly.

car ramrod 11-30-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I raise the flop



[/ QUOTE ]

is this b/c you think he will play back at us w/ a weaker hand. I surely don't want him to check/fold the turn, or worse fold the flop raise. I don't mind letting him bluff at us. And he may have a big hand here, so this is kind of a wa/wb. I may raise the river.

deepsquat 11-30-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
Id prob raise the flop, u will be ahead vs this guy a huge % of the time. This board has the potential to get ugly and im not sure if I could comfortably raise many turn cards. A call down prob is ok vs an unknown but against a guy with these numbers i think we need to get a raise in

POKhER 11-30-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wouldn't he be thinking "I'm going to limp with a good hand so I can pop him with aces, AK, AQ ..." rather than "That does it! Im raising with crap just to hurt him!"


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lol quite true, but alot of tards just go psycho with junk when they get angry.

check out his stats [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

11-30-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
Good point ... I overlooked his stats.

car ramrod 11-30-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
never mind, I missed the read on this guy.

Chairman Wood 11-30-2005 06:15 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
Due to BB being involved in the hand it's important that you raise the flop.

bottomset 11-30-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Donkey LRR\'d Should I be raising somewhere?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I raise the flop

[/ QUOTE ]

this is what I thought I should have done when going back through the HH's

villian had 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and MHIG


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