somebody solve this chess puzzle for me
 

and make me feel stupid
the second one down (i got the first one)
help

Re: somebody solve this chess puzzle for me
 

i dont know if that first reply was deleted or my computer is screwed up, but i dont think it was right. pawn takes f5 messes it up, i tried that already. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: somebody solve this chess puzzle for me
 

pawn f4, move bishop, then back to mate when black pawn moves.

My solution
 

Damn this was a hard one!

Originally I posted pawn @ f4
1.Be6 g5 2.Bf7# but black just plays 1...gxf5 and it doesn't work

But this does - pawn @ h2
1.h4! to cover g5 1...gxh3 e.p forced 2.Bxg6# now that the Rook covers g6

ScottieK

Re: somebody solve this chess puzzle for me
 

ok i got it
<font color="white"> place pawn at h3. move king anywhere, ...gxh3,2.bxg6 mate </font>

Re: My solution
 

i figured it out apparently same time as you, but i didnt get as fancy!
did you do the first one? it wasnt as tricky, but oh well

Re: My solution
 

I'll chew on it if I get time.

Who am I kidding, there's nothing going on at work today =)

ScottieK

Re: My solution
 

can u tell me the answer to #1?

nevermind, just got it.

Re: My solution
 

in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: My solution
 

why can't i see any white pawns in either of those puzzles?

Re: My solution
 

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why can't i see any white pawns in either of those puzzles?

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Because white doesn't have any pawns in the first, and adds one in the second?

Re: My solution
 

i thought i knew all the rules of chess.

how do you add a pawn?

Re: My solution
 

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in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I don't think that works. I think the answer is <font color="white">Qb2</font>

Re: My solution
 

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in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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Hmm, interesting, I did <font color="white"> Qb2 </font> and it seems to work! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: My solution
 

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in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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As a matter of fact, I don't think this works...

Edit: Oops, I'm too slow...someone else pointed that out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: My solution
 

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in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

As a matter of fact, I don't think this works...

Edit: Oops, I'm too slow...someone else pointed that out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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there appears to be more than one answer unless somebody can tell me why Qa7 doesnt work?

Re: My solution
 

1. Qa7 f1=Q 2.Qh1+ Bh2 (2.Nf2+ Qxf2; 2.Rh8+ Bh2) right?

1.Qb2 f1=Q 2.Qh8+ Bh2, other checks are blocked, right?

EDIT: Wait: 1.Qb2 f1=Q 2.Ng3#; 1.Qb2 f1=N 2.Qg2#; 1.Qb2 Bh2 2.Nxf2#; 1.Qb2 Kh2 2.Qh8#

Success!

ScottieK

Re: My solution
 

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1. Qa7 f1=Q 2.Qh1+ Bh2 (2.Nf2+ Qxf2; 2.Rh8+ Bh2) right?

1.Qb2 f1=Q 2.Qh8+ Bh2, other checks are blocked, right?

EDIT: Wait: 1.Qb2 f1=Q 2.Ng3#; 1.Qb2 Bh2 2.Nxf2#; 1.Qb2 Kh2 2.Qh8#

Success!

ScottieK

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What he said.

Re: My solution
 

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in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

As a matter of fact, I don't think this works...

Edit: Oops, I'm too slow...someone else pointed that out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]
there appears to be more than one answer unless somebody can tell me why Qa7 doesnt work?

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wtf, the board is upside down!!!
i take back the Qa7 answer
i am svck at chess [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: My solution
 

Don't worry, I'm sure you would have gotten it right if you had read the letters and numbers on the side of the board ;-)

Thanks for posting the puzzles though. Always good to keep the calculating skills sharp.

ScottieK

Re: My solution
 

This is why chess puzzles piss me off:
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White adds a Pawn and mates in two

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Does white move first?
Are the black pawns moving north or south?

Maybe there are some standard rules to chess puzzles of which Im unaware, but assuming the black pawns are moving south and white moves first, white has an available checkmate: Qg4.

Edit: Ohh i get it.. "adds a pawn"

Re: My solution
 

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This is why chess puzzles piss me off:
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White adds a Pawn and mates in two

[/ QUOTE ]

Does white move first?
Are the black pawns moving north or south?

Maybe there are some standard rules to chess puzzles of which Im unaware, but assuming the black pawns are moving south and white moves first, white has an available checkmate: Qg4.

Edit: Ohh i get it.. "adds a pawn"

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you am svck at chess worse than me, theres no queen on the board anyway [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: My solution
 

just caught that thanks... if it were a queen, thered be no white king. lol

Re: My solution
 

[ QUOTE ]
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in case im wrong or youre wrong: <font color="white"> Qa7 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

As a matter of fact, I don't think this works...

Edit: Oops, I'm too slow...someone else pointed that out [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]
there appears to be more than one answer unless somebody can tell me why Qa7 doesnt work?

[/ QUOTE ]
wtf, the board is upside down!!!
i take back the Qa7 answer
i am svck at chess [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Qb1.

chess problem standards / conventions
 

Unless otherwise indicated:

- You are seeing the problem from white's perspective (meaning white is moving north / up the page and black is moving south / down the page.) This is the case 99% of the time. If the diagram has coordinates, remember that a1 is ALWAYS on the white side of the board, at his left corner.

- White moves first. This can be indicated by a 1.? or a white dot. Black to move first can be indicated by 1. ...? or a black dot. The goal should be stated: "White to move and checkmate in two moves," "White to move and win (usually force a game-winning advantage," etc.)

Hope this helps.

ScottieK