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11-30-2005 04:48 AM

33r PCA sat final table hand
 
Down to 4 handed of the 33rebuy WPT PCA super. 1st place gets a seat. 2-4 get 650. villian here was the most agressive player left. this seemed a perfect time for a resteal. things get messy when on the flop. is this as easy as a call as i think it is? do you agree with the lead bet? i figured i had a very large chance of taking it down right away, but why oh why did i bet so little?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (4 handed) converter

Hero (t150092)
UTG (t158206)
Button (t197256)
SB (t246446)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t18000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t48000</font>, SB calls t30000.

Flop: (t96600) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t18000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t132000</font>

Melchiades 11-30-2005 04:53 AM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
Push the flop? Or take a free card. Whatever you do, I hate that weak bet. Gives the villain a chance to do exactly what he did.

11-30-2005 04:55 AM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
barf. what's that flop bet? Pussssssssssssssssh

Jman28 11-30-2005 05:08 AM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
I'd rather call preflop than resteal here.

On the flop, you have a crystal clear push.

You're behind right now, but you have the odds to call his raise, unless you're vastly better than everyone at the table.

11-30-2005 12:00 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd rather call preflop than resteal here.

On the flop, you have a crystal clear push.

You're behind right now, but you have the odds to call his raise, unless you're vastly better than everyone at the table.

[/ QUOTE ]

i of course did call, what shocked me was how little i was behind. he had k(heart), j(non heart). of course i whiffed my billion outs.

Melchiades 11-30-2005 12:03 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
Moral of the story. Push this flop.

mts 11-30-2005 12:05 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
i dont get it, you know what you did wrong. whats the point of this.

Melchiades 11-30-2005 12:13 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
To tell the story of how he busted vs K high? No idea.

11-30-2005 01:59 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
forget my crappy flop bet. i wanted to know if pushing is better than checking behind on the flop.

schwza 11-30-2005 02:54 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
i'd push the flop ~100% there.

centja1 11-30-2005 03:05 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
whenever i see a hand like this on the flop, i think back to Howard Lederer's analysis of how Doyle Brunson played the hand that busted Lederer in the 2004 ME.

Brunson opened with KT[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and lederer called in BB with 77. Flop came 7xx with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], giving brunson a four-flush. Lederer checked and Brunson moved all-in with a huge overbet with two overs and a flush draw. Lederer called and busted on a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the river.

When asked about it later, he said that he actually liked the way Brunson played his hand, saying, "If he bets, I'm going to raise and then what is he going to do, fold? So, once he determined that he isn't going to fold no matter how i react, he figures he might as well make me play for all of my chips if I have a hand. And if I don't have a hand, i'm going to fold and he doesn't have to make his flush."

I know, it's a simple concept, and it's one that you undoubtedly know, but if you're going to re-steal in position with 63s, then you need to push when you catch your dream flop and either finish off the steal or double up by getting the money in as a big favorite.

nice play against the steal, though.

mts 11-30-2005 03:09 PM

Re: 33r PCA sat final table hand
 
oh ok my bad, yes easy push


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