I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
SB has been raising half of his hands up until now. He's been pretty straight forward postflop. My preflop call is wrong too.
Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls. Flop: (8.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds. Turn: (5.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. River: (7.00 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.00 BB. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
I'd call the river here. The pot is large and maybe he is betting Qs and 9s and not a flush or STR8.
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Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
I would not have laid this one down either.
I also would have bet the river, because it was unlikely that your opponent had been on a bdfd. Top 2 pair is a good hand, and your loose opponent could easily have been playing a hand like Ax. I admit that it looks grim when your opponent check raised you on the river, and he probably wasnt bluffing, but nonetheless I would not have liked to take that chance without a very good read. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
If you lay down the hand at this point, expect to see a lot more made flushes hit on you.
I know I'd take a shot at you with a busted straight draw if I had seen you fold it before. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
*grunch*
SB has been raising half of his hands up until now Do you mean half the hands dealt or half the hands he has played PF? PF call is fine and calling 1-bet after the raise when your closing the action is fine as well. Flop is fine. Turn is fine. River: Qc makes both nut straight and (possible nut) flush possible. Maybe just check behind? But having bet and been raised, call it. Dave |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
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My preflop call is wrong too. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, yes it was. River call is fine, though. YHIG at least one time in 10. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
Grunch:
I would have called this pre-flop also. Would villian RR flop w AK or AQ? He would have raised preflop w KJ or a lot of other hands. I think I would play it the same. I couldn't fold for 1 bb on River. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
i wouldnt usually fold AT from there but my full ring game is a little rusty. id either raise or limp, depending on how tight the players behind me are
and against a lag you cant fold two pair here |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
*grunching*
PF: I really think you should throw this away if there is a guy who raises much at the table. Flop: Nice flop! It's ok Turn: I would play it the same. River: Check behind. He will only call you with better OR raise. And if he is straightforward indeed he has to have something. Atleast better than two pair with AT raising the river with a flushcard and possible straight. Edit: with straightforward I mean that the c/r means he has strong holdings. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
:grunching
Preflop: Maybe raising > calling but calling > folding and not far from raising. Flop & turn: Standard River: I'm definitely not folding getting 10:1. If villain slowplayed AA, TT I'm just glad I got away cheaply. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
I wouldn't bet the river. Qc is a very ugly card.
Except that I would have played the same. |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
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SB has been raising half of his hands up until now. He's been pretty straight forward postflop. My preflop call is wrong too. Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls. Flop: (8.00 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds. Turn: (5.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. River: (7.00 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 11.00 BB. [/ QUOTE ] grunch: You shouldn't lay it down, even if the C/R on the end says that you're likely beat, and beaten badly. I suppose that he had QQ. The cards to the flush are irrelevant. You have Ac, and the queen and ten are on the board. What combination of clubs could he have that he'd raise with preflop from the SB? KJc is the only vaguely real possibility, and I wouldn't give it much credence. Same reasoning for the straight possibility. My guess is that he was dealt QQ, raised PF, and then from the flop called down assuming that you had hit a weak ace, but caught his queen on the river. This reasoning stems from your title though. I'd say something else if you hadn't given the impression that you lost [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
Aside from preflop, I play it the same.
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Re: I don\'t lay down this one. Leak?
Preflop: I happily isolate the UTG limper.
River: I don't bet this river UNLESS I'm prepared to fold to a checkraise. |
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