HU MHNL TOURNEY TAKE 2...LET\'S DO THIS
 

I think this is the best structure. I realize all of these could be tweaked in some way but you can't please everybody and this is the best possible compromise IMO. Also, when running this tourney it will in no way be associated with 2+2. The subject line is just to get attention.

Structure

32 Players. $1500 each.

Single Elimination 32-man tourney. The bracket will be formed after signups and will be randomly generated.

Each player starts off with 200BB and each player has a one-time only 100BB rebuy available after dipping down below 100BB. When a player gets to 0, he or she loses.

Money issues

There will be 8 people holding money who will be assigned 4 participants whose money they will collect. They will then distribute the money when the tourney is over. Once these assignments are made, all transactions should be figured out through PM. The 8 people are:
1) CaptZeebo
2) James282
3) Jason Strasser (strassa2)
4) AJo Go All In
5) Yeti
6) AZK
7) FSUPlayer
8) Foxwoods Fiend

Participants
I am writing this based on the last thread. IF I HAVE YOU AS PLAYING AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO PLAY IN THIS STRUCTURE PLEASE PM ME ASAP. Similarly, if you previously gave a "maybe" and now want to play, let me know. If I have you as a back-up, I am simply unfamiliar with you. No disrespect-feel free to PM me if you think you deserve priority. If you do think you deserve back-up status you should still PM me to confirm interest.
IF YOU ARE NOT ON ANY LIST AND WANT TO PLAY PM ME.

I will post the officially registered list as well as assign money collectors to each participant on Saturday.

IN (28 participants):
ML4l
Chuddo
Flawless Victory
durrrr
vanVeen
FSUplayer
HoldEmKillah
FoxwoodsFiend
Thebruiser500
Yeti
El Diablo
Matt Flynn
AZK
Thabadguy
etizzle
Prevaricator
DonButtons
Coltrane
AJoGoAllIn
Raptor517
cwl
Apathy
Whitelime
LarryDavid
KKF123
neon
Strassa
fslexduck

Tentative (3):
AceHisStation
TurnipMonster
TheTruth
edge

Back-ups (5):
Stoxtrader
JaBlue
Thatwackokid
Cyberstack
JCMoussa

Payouts

32-17: 0
16-9: 750
8-5: 2500
4-3: 6500
2: 8000
1: 11000
Schedule

Once the final list is released, people will PM their assigned collector and transfer that person $1500. Once I have received confirmation that all the $ is in, I will release the brackets. I am going to cut up slips and draw them out of a hat and assign seeding in the order I drew the name. If anybody is worried that I would assign myself a favorable bracket, I can have the drawing with AJo Go All In as a witness but hopefully this won't be necessary.

After each match is announced, players will have 1 week to finish their match. 1 round a week every week. The tournament will be suspended from Dec. 23 until January 4th so that holiday plans don't interfere.

Where to play

I don't know. I'm going to e-mail the head of TruePoker to see if they can guarantee us HU Play Money Tables for a small fee. If so, I will announce the fee and we can discuss either adding it to everybody's buy-in or taking it from the top few finishers (it should be small enough that nobody should mind this if winning a nice chunk of change).

I am unfamiliar with non-Party Poker sites. I hope that the rest of this thread will be a discussion of this logistical issue. In responding to this thread, please err on the side of PMing me instead of cluttering this thread with "I'm in" or "I don't like this aspect of it." I want this thread to stay relatively short so that people don't give up on the whole thing.

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good work. hopefully you can work out where it is going to be played. holiday suspension was a good call as well.

payouts?

*edit* will the final 4 and championship match also be slightly deeper than the regular matches?

also will the semi-final losers play another match to determine 3rd place? or will 3rd = 4th in money?

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also, you have to remove 2+2 from the title of the tourney, which is why i went with MHNL Heads-Up Invitational.

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i dunno, 300 BB could take a sick amount of time, depending on what the matchup is. I dont think the finals and semis should be any deeper.

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hey chuddo, I must say, your old avatar was far better.

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Each player starts off with 200BB and each player has a one-time only 100BB rebuy available after dipping down below 100BB. When a player gets to 0, he or she loses.


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can you clarify this?....the sentence I put in bold doesn't really make sense given the previous sentences.....

i.e. - if we get down to 101BB, we cannot rebuy, correct?...but if we now go all-in and lose, can we rebuy? (because we're now at zero but have not used our rebuy)....

I'm assuming you just mean both players start with 200BB but are allowed another 100BB to add-on anytime they get below 100BB (regardless of how far below), and the match is over once all 300BB are lost by one player.

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i dunno, 300 BB could take a sick amount of time, depending on what the matchup is. I dont think the finals and semis should be any deeper.

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I agree

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Each player starts off with 200BB and each player has a one-time only 100BB rebuy available after dipping down below 100BB. When a player gets to 0, he or she loses.


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can you clarify this?....the sentence I put in bold doesn't really make sense given the previous sentences.....

i.e. - if we get down to 101BB, we cannot rebuy, correct?...but if we now go all-in and lose, can we rebuy? (because we're now at zero but have not used our rebuy)....

I'm assuming you just mean both players start with 200BB but are allowed another 100BB to add-on anytime they get below 100BB (regardless of how far below), and the match is over once all 300BB are lost by one player.

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Yep, you're right. My fault

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pretty disappointing that this isn't winner take all

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pretty disappointing that this isn't winner take all

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pretty disappointing 9-16 gets half a buyin back. make it a full one or nothing. half is dumb. holla

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I can't please everybody and opening every aspect of this to discussion is just going to lead to gridlock. Anything that is not truly troubling (i.e. trust issues/logistics) is non-negotiable. Take it or leave it. If the half a buyin return for 9-16 bothers you enough to drop out, PM me. But I figure that winning a round should at least get you something but that there should be enough left to make the top 4 spots pretty enticing.

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I can't please everybody and opening every aspect of this to discussion is just going to lead to gridlock. Anything that is not truly troubling (i.e. trust issues/logistics) is non-negotiable. Take it or leave it. If the half a buyin return for 9-16 bothers you enough to drop out, PM me. But I figure that winning a round should at least get you something but that there should be enough left to make the top 4 spots pretty enticing.

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haha dont get me wrong im still playing, its just like.. i duno i always get pissed when i end up getting half back. like in the damned step 4 highers. they pay out like 5 spots so ppl that work their way up have a chance. iiiiim just nitpickin tell me where to ship my money. holla

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Better payout? :

32-17: 0
16-9: 0
8-5: 2500
4-3: 6000
2: 10000
1: 16000

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definitely.

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i wrote up a pretty good payout structure in the last thread.

i think that there should be a bronze medal match.

i think that there won't be anyone who minds not gettin back 1/2 entry

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I think people might be more hesitant to play if they'd have to win 2 rounds just to make 1K and might care less about more money for top 2 since it's somewhat of a longshot to get there. I guess I'd consider this pay-out structure. What do other players who will be involved think and how strong are their preferences?

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yeti's payout structure is brilliant. only i would have 3rd and 4th play a match for a higher payout than the other one.

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i like this a lot yeti.

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Perfect is the enemy of good.

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yeti's payout structure is brilliant. only i would have 3rd and 4th play a match for a higher payout than the other one.

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We'll do Yeti's payout then. As for 3rd and 4th, let's keep it as Yeti has it. I say that if 3rd and 4th agree to a division of the $12K based on a match between them, they can arrange one after both of them announce on 2+2 that this is agreed upon (so that the money is distributed correctly).

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yeti's payout structure is brilliant. only i would have 3rd and 4th play a match for a higher payout than the other one.

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We'll do Yeti's payout then. As for 3rd and 4th, let's keep it as Yeti has it. I say that if 3rd and 4th agree to a division of the $12K based on a match between them, they can arrange one after both of them announce on 2+2 that this is agreed upon (so that the money is distributed correctly).

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ah i see how things work. thanks for humoring a change. holla

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bump

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fwiw I am in, bring it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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happy birthday

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in.

Progress Report
 

So far I have 31 slated participants-some of them have not responded to my PMs confirming their interest. If you know of any way to get a hold of them, please do so and have them PM me. They are the ones whose names do not have "Confirmed" by them. We are still waiting for somebody to claim the 32nd spot.
Chuddo CONFIRMED
Flawless Victory CONFIRMED
durrrr CONFIRMED
vanVeen
FSUplayer CONFIRMED
HoldEmKillah CONFIRMED
FoxwoodsFiend CONFIRMED
Yeti confirmed
El Diablo CONFIRMED
Matt Flynn
AZK CONFIRMED
Thabadguy
etizzle CONFIRMED
Prevaricator CONFIRMED
DonButtons CONFIRMED
Coltrane CONFIRMED
AJoGoAllIn CONFIRMED
Raptor517 CONFIRMED
cwl CONFIRMED
Apathy CONFIRMED
Whitelime CONFIRMED
LarryDavid
KKF123
neon CONFIRMED
Strassa
fslexduck CONFIRMED
ezratei CONFIRMED
turnipmonster CONFIRMED
JJProdigy CONFIRMED
Cyberstack CONFIRMED
stoxtrader CONFIRMED

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Side bets? If there is interest I'll start another thread.

full tilt
 

has anyone emailed true poker yet? I'll email full tilt tonight if no one else wants to.

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Side bets? If there is interest I'll start another thread.

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Right now I'm pretty confident I'll win it, but I need to see the draw first before I am 100% sure.

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has anyone emailed true poker yet? I'll email full tilt tonight if no one else wants to.

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I'm trying to get true poker to let us do it, but it's not looking very promising. A friend of mine suggested that we could play at the partypoker.net or pokerstars.net sites-the playmoney ones. Obviously I'm not familiar with them, but I'll download them soon and see if they have many HU tables

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Side bets? If there is interest I'll start another thread.

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Right now I'm pretty confident I'll win it, but I need to see the draw first before I am 100% sure.

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I'll make a book if people are interested. I think this could add fun for people who aren't involved.

Edit: And of course allow hedges for the pussies who are playing with scared money and allow leveraging for those people like Yeti who are bold enough to make winning claims and then back it up with some cold hard cash.

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Side bets? If there is interest I'll start another thread.

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I'd love to bet on every matchup of every round, it should be fun. Obviously this'll have to wait until the matchups are set.

another question
 

I'd just like to make sure it's ok for the participants to agree to stop the match and continue later. the reason I am asking this is I pretty much never have > 4 hours to play pokah, usually less. hopefully the matches will not take this long but with constant blinds and 200BB stacks you never know.

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Side bets? If there is interest I'll start another thread.

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I'd love to bet on every matchup of every round, it should be fun. Obviously this'll have to wait until the matchups are set.

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You gotta watch out how much action you get. We don't want to see people throwing games here! That would compromise the integrity of this grand event.

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Side bets? If there is interest I'll start another thread.

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I'd love to bet on every matchup of every round, it should be fun. Obviously this'll have to wait until the matchups are set.

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You gotta watch out how much action you get. We don't want to see people throwing games here! That would compromise the integrity of this grand event.

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Yeah, I was thinking like $50-100 a pop.

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I'd just like to make sure it's ok for the participants to agree to stop the match and continue later. the reason I am asking this is I pretty much never have > 4 hours to play pokah, usually less. hopefully the matches will not take this long but with constant blinds and 200BB stacks you never know.

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This is obviously fine, but I think that before any participants take a break they should both PM each other confirming the chip counts. That way there will be easy proof in case there is any conflict later. I know we will be keeping hand histories, but this would be a lot simpler.

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and allow leveraging for those people like Yeti who are bold enough to make winning claims and then back it up with some cold hard cash.

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hahaha, i will be amazed if i get past the first round.

oh fk, no, wait, i didn't mean that. bring it on pussies. holla.

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creed wtf how come you aren't playing?

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btw guys, chaostracize just referred to this tournament as a dick measuring contest, and i can't say i don't agree. however, i was unaware that that is what it was before i agreed to enter.

that being said, you're all going down, bitches.

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it is weird for me, I usually never play tournaments or any games that aren't excellent. probably not a +EV move for me but should be fun.