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BobboFitos 11-28-2005 02:21 PM

pokerstars
 
Posting for a friend who got himself banned. I think he played it well but he says he wants SSNL thoughts.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 ($81.55)
CO ($74.55)
Button ($98.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($82.50)</font>
BB ($40)
UTG ($45.30)
UTG+1 ($52.70)
MP1 ($49.35)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($83.50)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls $3.

Turn: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP2 calls $8.

River: ($25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $9.

Final Pot: $61

xorbie 11-28-2005 02:22 PM

Re: pokerstars
 
I would prefer to check the river.

Morrek 11-28-2005 02:37 PM

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I would prefer to check the river.

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yeah.. betting 9 into 25 doesn't really accomplish anything

beavens 11-28-2005 02:45 PM

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I would prefer to check the river.

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yeah.. betting 9 into 25 doesn't really accomplish anything

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qft - can you find out why he bet less than 1/2 on the river?

attempt at a blocking bet, or was he going for value?

4_2_it 11-28-2005 02:51 PM

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I don't mind the river blocking bet. I think $9 should get you to showdown with most villains who do not hold the mortal nuts. The min raise is odd, but I still call and would not be surprised to see a Q high flush or A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

11-28-2005 02:51 PM

Re: pokerstars
 
I prob check the river fearing the flopped flush.

How does one get banned from PokerStars?

PokerFink 11-28-2005 02:52 PM

Re: pokerstars
 
I like check/call better on the river.

BobboFitos 11-28-2005 02:53 PM

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I prob check the river fearing the flopped flush.

How does one get banned from PokerStars?

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he was banned from 2p2 because he posts spam in oot, i htink.

Hoopster81 11-28-2005 02:53 PM

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How does one get banned from PokerStars?

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I think he meant banned from 2+2

11-28-2005 02:54 PM

Re: pokerstars
 
I would prefer to check the river.

Me too.

Dumle

TheWorstPlayer 11-28-2005 02:55 PM

Re: pokerstars
 
Check/call the river is probably better. The way "he" played it you can probably safely fold to the river raise, I kid you not. Also, just because you are playing .5/1 with 80bb doesn't mean you have to pretend it was a friend playing the hand.

GrunchCan 11-28-2005 02:59 PM

Re: pokerstars
 
If the river bet was a blocking bet, why call the raise?

Incidentally, if the bet was indeed a blocking bet, it was too small, I think. Based on how he played the ret of the hand, it should probably be 1/2-3/4 pot to be effective as a blocking bet. Therefore I'd probably prefer to check-call the river. If I could use a smaller blocking bet effectively, I'd do that. Here, I don't think Hero can.

KowCiller 11-28-2005 03:05 PM

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I would prefer to check the river.

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yeah.. betting 9 into 25 doesn't really accomplish anything

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That's funny. I think it accomplishes a ton, if he was going for a weak bet to induce a bluff raise. It's so opponent dependant and not a lot of people in SSNL use that maneuver.

As a default against an unknown, check-call is better. Against a player capable of pouncing on weak bets, I love his line.

KoW

BobboFitos 11-28-2005 03:08 PM

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Check/call the river is probably better. The way "he" played it you can probably safely fold to the river raise, I kid you not. Also, just because you are playing .5/1 with 80bb doesn't mean you have to pretend it was a friend playing the hand.

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"he" is mightymouse here on 2p2. I dont know wh yhe didnt have full stack.

TheWorstPlayer 11-28-2005 03:09 PM

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I've long suspected BobboFitos=MightMouse.

GrunchCan 11-28-2005 03:09 PM

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I think it accomplishes a ton, if he was going for a weak bet to induce a bluff raise. It's so opponent dependant and not a lot of people in SSNL use that maneuver.

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As you say, it's very opponent-dependant. But I like the idea behind it. In this case since we were given no reads, I can't see recommending trying to induce here.

KowCiller 11-28-2005 03:13 PM

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I think it accomplishes a ton, if he was going for a weak bet to induce a bluff raise. It's so opponent dependant and not a lot of people in SSNL use that maneuver.

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As you say, it's very opponent-dependant. But I like the idea behind it. In this case since we were given no reads, I can't see recommending trying to induce here.

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Ya any reads at all would help. Clearly as stated check-call is better against an unknown.

Some reason I felt like he was trying to induce a bluff raise (based solely on reading the HH) and I was surprised no one brought it up yet (people even went so far as saying it didn't accomplish anything!).

KoW

BobboFitos 11-28-2005 03:17 PM

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I've long suspected BobboFitos=MightMouse.

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hah, nope. sign on aim buddy

Allinlife 11-28-2005 03:40 PM

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I raise pf
I like the river bet..probably gonna have to call minraise, since 89/J9 isn't too unlikely


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