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I still think he's a good coach and I do believe he was the right person to hire when he was hired but this needed to happen. The team is never motivated. He can't get players to play together and also he seems unmotivated himself. But what really needs to happen is that they fire Mat Millen.

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I hope the Lions draft a WR in the 1st round next year. that would be funny.

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The Lions are the worst franchise in the modern history on the NFL. They have always been an underacheiving, over-injured group of non-performers who never amount to anything.

Until the Fords release control of the organization they will never be SB caliber team.

[censored] the Lions.

PG

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Now he'll be replaced by some donk that will do an even worse job. Millen actually passed on Parcells in favor of Mariucci. Parcells actually wanted to come to Detroit and ended up settling for the Cowboy's. That alone should be enough reason to fire Millen.

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Look, I understand Mooch was doing a horrible job in Detroit. I watched the Atlanta debacle, you know? Nobody on that team gave a [censored] except maybe Joey Harrington. Steve Mariucci punted down 27 points in the third quarter. Either he's clueless (probably not) or he didn't give a damn. That's obviously a great reason to fire him, but why should he give a damn? Nobody in the front office gives a damn starting with the Fords and going down to Matt Millen. Tell me how Matt Millen has a job? The coaches get the fall for everything but the front office more times than not are what screws these teams up.

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Millen just signed an extension through 2009 at the beginning of this year or something like that. I doubt he'll be going anywhere anytime soon.

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Now he'll be replaced by some donk that will do an even worse job. Millen actually passed on Parcells in favor of Mariucci. Parcells actually wanted to come to Detroit and ended up settling for the Cowboy's. That alone should be enough reason to fire Millen.

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I am curious as to where/how you learned of this.

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Look, I understand Mooch was doing a horrible job in Detroit.

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That's debateable. The performance of the team does fall squarely on him, but the quality of the players he's had in the past three years wasn't really ever a playoff caliber team. Rogers is a bust and he'll be gone at the end of the season. Roy is solid when healthy, but that's like every other game. Mike Williams can catch the ball , but not much else. But so can most other receivers in the league.

No need to spend the 10th pick on a third receiver. The Lions passed on a lot of better choices to draft a 'project' type of player, when they weren't in position to do so. It was in their best interest to get a more impact type of player, or trade down to the lower part of the round and get more picks. I thought at the time Derrick Johnson out of Texas would be a steal at the 10th pick.

Their OL is average AT BEST, they have a quarterback whose ability to perform doesn't equal his enthusiasm, their secondary is always understaffed and overinjured. The only strong points on the whole team is the DL, their linebackers and their special teams. Even Kevin Jones can't run for 100 yards in a game anymore.

If you want to blame the coaches, fine. Fire the coaches and get someone else in there. But who? Who would want this job?

Mike Tice will be seeking employment after this season. Maybe he'll recruit TO and they can have even more receivers.

The Lions are a god damn joke. Bring back Wayne Fontes. At least they'd make the playoffs once in a while.

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Now he'll be replaced by some donk that will do an even worse job. Millen actually passed on Parcells in favor of Mariucci. Parcells actually wanted to come to Detroit and ended up settling for the Cowboy's. That alone should be enough reason to fire Millen.

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I am curious as to where/how you learned of this.

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A Detroit Lion's sports talk radio show.

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The Lions are a god damn joke. Bring back Wayne Fontes. At least they'd make the playoffs once in a while.

PG

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Noooo anything but Wayne, please.

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I don't disagree with this move, but firing Millen also seems like a no brainer.

I think Mariucci is a good coach. But while watching the game on Thursday, the annoucners said something about him wanting to get his team to practive better. Its week 10. If they don't practice well by then, then he's doing a [censored] job.

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Keep dreaming.

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The Lions are the worst franchise in the modern history on the NFL. They have always been an underacheiving, over-injured group of non-performers who never amount to anything.

Until the Fords release control of the organization they will never be SB caliber team.

[censored] the Lions.

PG

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NH.

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The Lions are the worst franchise in the modern history on the NFL. They have always been an underacheiving, over-injured group of non-performers who never amount to anything.



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I disagree. We definately have a thing or two on the Arizona Cardinals. And we were alright a few years during Barry's time.

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Until the Fords release control of the organization they will never be SB caliber team.


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I agree here. The only way that you could explain ineptitude for this long is poor front office management.

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We definately have a thing or two on the Arizona Cardinals.

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Barely.

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And we were alright a few years during Barry's time.

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Alright? Is 'Alright' good enough? Not good enough to get Barry to want to stay.

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This is sort of off topic, but someone told me that Herman Moore offered to come and teach the current WRs a few things and was told No thanks by the Lions FO/coaches. Any truth to this? If they did say no, I'm sure they had their reasons. I'm just wondering if their reasons were any good....

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This is sort of off topic, but someone told me that Herman Moore offered to come and teach the current WRs a few things and was told No thanks by the Lions FO/coaches. Any truth to this? If they did say no, I'm sure they had their reasons. I'm just wondering if their reasons were any good....



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I've never heard anything of the sort. But, I've always liked Herman Moore, very classy, team-orientated guy.

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Barely.

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Modern era, we have 3 division championships and a few playoff apperances. By no means is this good but this is far beyond anything the cardinals have done. Not sure but I don't think they have made the playoffs since the merger.

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Now he'll be replaced by some donk that will do an even worse job.

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Dick Jauron, ok, not bad. Something like this is to be expected. He will be dismissed at the end of the year. Who will they hire when the season is over? College coach?

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It doesn't matter who finishes the season.

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Are the vikings allowed to immediately fire tice and pick up Mariucci? If so, they should.

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Are the vikings allowed to immediately fire tice and pick up Mariucci? If so, they should.

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I don't think Mariucci will jump into another coaching job right away. He wanted to take a year off after SF let him go but took the Lions job instead.

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This is sort of off topic, but someone told me that Herman Moore offered to come and teach the current WRs a few things and was told No thanks by the Lions FO/coaches. Any truth to this? If they did say no, I'm sure they had their reasons. I'm just wondering if their reasons were any good....



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I've never heard anything of the sort. But, I've always liked Herman Moore, very classy, team-orientated guy.

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I read this on Freep.com (Detroit Free Press). Also heard it on a radio show.

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Modern era, we have 3 division championships and a few playoff apperances. By no means is this good but this is far beyond anything the cardinals have done. Not sure but I don't think they have made the playoffs since the merger.

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Cardinals made the playoff in '98. They even beat the Cowboys and advanced to the Divisional Round where they lost the Vikings.

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Might just be my lack of memory have they drafted an Offensive Lineman that was ever able to start since Jeff Backus?

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YOU'RE FIRED!

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Might just be my lack of memory have they drafted an Offensive Lineman that was ever able to start since Jeff Backus?

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Haha you are going to like this....They selcted Jeff Backus with their 1st pick in 2001 and also took Dominic Roila with their 2nd pick the same year. Since then they have selected 3 O Linemen. 1 in 2002 with their 7th round pick (259 Overall), 1 in 2003 with their 7th round pick (216 Overall), and 1 in 2004 with their 6th round pick (172 Overall).

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Might just be my lack of memory have they drafted an Offensive Lineman that was ever able to start since Jeff Backus?

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Haha you are going to like this....They selcted Jeff Backus with their 1st pick in 2001 and also took Dominic Roila with their 2nd pick the same year. Since then they have selected 3 O Linemen. 1 in 2002 with their 7th round pick (259 Overall), 1 in 2003 with their 7th round pick (216 Overall), and 1 in 2004 with their 6th round pick (172 Overall).

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Hmmm....so three Wide recievers a RB and a QB and no one to block for them. Smaaaaart.

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The Lions are the worst franchise in the modern history on the NFL.

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It all trickles down from the top. And the situation is hopeless.

'sup AC?

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Interesting column by Dan Wetzel here.

Talking about Millen, he says:
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He should resign.

After five years of Millen running the worst franchise in the NFL deeper into the ground, the move would be long overdue.


The Lions stunk when Millen took over. They are worse now. The fact he will be hiring the third head coach under his tenure is just one of a million mind numbingly bad stats.

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Now he'll be replaced by some donk that will do an even worse job. Millen actually passed on Parcells in favor of Mariucci. Parcells actually wanted to come to Detroit and ended up settling for the Cowboy's. That alone should be enough reason to fire Millen.

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I am curious as to where/how you learned of this.

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A Detroit Lion's sports talk radio show.

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My BS detector is going off on this one. I'm not saying that you are lying, but I highly doubt this sudden information that no one has ever heard before.

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Now he'll be replaced by some donk that will do an even worse job. Millen actually passed on Parcells in favor of Mariucci. Parcells actually wanted to come to Detroit and ended up settling for the Cowboy's. That alone should be enough reason to fire Millen.

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I am curious as to where/how you learned of this.

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A Detroit Lion's sports talk radio show.

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My BS detector is going off on this one. I'm not saying that you are lying, but I highly doubt this sudden information that no one has ever heard before.

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I agree. The opening in Detroit was due to Mariucci's firing in SF. That happened after their playoff loss (to Tampa I think) before the NFC title game. Marty was out, and less than a week later Mooch was in.

I don't think Parcells was even a thought, as he had 'retired' from coaching some time before that.

PG

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My BS detector is going off on this one. I'm not saying that you are lying, but I highly doubt this sudden information that no one has ever heard before.

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I am shocked, shocked that you would doubt something heard on sports talk radio. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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According to John Clayton:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...amp;id=2239800

Clayton basically implies that Mooch was too soft and Millen will be looking for a tougher personality to replace him.

I find this interesting and rather alarming at the same time. Recall Bobby Ross. He fits that description perfectly and where did the Lions wind up with him? He couldn't handle the Lions (albeit a different group) and quit in the middle of the season.

I suggest they find R. Lee Ermey and get him to coach the Lions. There won't be any endzone celebrations if he were in charge (although there aren't any now either, since the Lions don't score).

PG