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swiftrhett 11-28-2005 02:39 AM

Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
I'm always thinking of what a good viewing display setup would be, and now it looks like we have more options. The Computer forum has suggested that the best huge LCD is the Apple Cinema 30"er. It looks like you can only fit 6 full sized tables on this though. Maybe there is a good CRT resolution to fit 5 tables / screen? I still want to wait for the new exciting features for 2006 before I buy too much.

runner4life7 11-28-2005 02:42 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
ive been 10 tabling with 9 on one of my 20.1"s and then on the other i have the lobby, a full sized table, and my spreadsheet i use, as well as winamp and trillian of course.

ilya 11-28-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
I like 9-tabling on 1600x1200 with the tables scaled down all the way to eliminate overlap. I like it cos I can see many of these little tables at once, & that's good for getting reads in a hurry. so, i recommend this setup over some sort of humongous-monitor dealio.

swiftrhett 11-28-2005 02:50 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Can you see all 9 easy? I played 3 sets with 9 on my 19 inch CRT, and I could see it well enough to play, but I'm worried about my eyes going bad in the long run.

Mr_J 11-28-2005 02:50 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Ultimate setup?? 2 dell 2001s on dvi, with 2 party accounts for 18 tabling.

runner4life7 11-28-2005 02:51 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
my problem so far is just getting a little better at grabbing the stupid bar now that its smaller, it hasnt been too big of a problem, but a little annoying sometimes

BrettP217 11-28-2005 02:54 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
does everyone have this beta software or what ever... i cant seem to make my tables any smaller?

ilya 11-28-2005 02:56 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Can you see all 9 easy? I played 3 sets with 9 on my 19 inch CRT, and I could see it well enough to play, but I'm worried about my eyes going bad in the long run.

[/ QUOTE ]

I've played about 20 hours like this by now & it doesn't seem to bother my eyes too much. I make sure to look at something far away every few minutes, and that seems to do the trick.

What I do want though is a macro that would let me go all-in at the press of a button. Anyone wanna teach me how to make one?

swiftrhett 11-28-2005 02:56 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Yeah, I emailed mikeo@partygaming.com about the slider bar, and you should too. So you can see all 9 ok on the one 2001fp? 6 would probably fit good on a 2405fpw, so you could get 2 of those if you want the tables bigger.

Yeah, when do we get to 18 table? Even if you got 2 party accounts, you need 2 computers and 2 mice, right? Somebody else ask Mikeo to let us 18 table too!

ilya 11-28-2005 02:58 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]
does everyone have this beta software or what ever... i cant seem to make my tables any smaller?

[/ QUOTE ]

check the thread in the Internet forum for a link to the download.

ChoicestHops 11-28-2005 03:01 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
I don't like it personally. The tables are too small and strain my eyes. Instaed, I've been nine-tabling recently using a 1920 x 1440 resolution. Three sets at top, bottom, and middle. There's overlap but I've been doing great with it.

Even so, Im glad Party is offering the new feature to users. It's been talked about forever.

runner4life7 11-28-2005 03:02 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
i will email him now and 18 tabling would be sweet. Also if you ever get that macro for the all in let me know because that would be very handy.

swiftrhett 11-28-2005 03:10 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
What is straining your eyes, if not the small 9 tables? 1600x1200 resolution of 9 tables should show you pretty much the same thing.

[ QUOTE ]
I don't like it personally. The tables are too small and strain my eyes. Instaed, I've been nine-tabling recently using a 1920 x 1440 resolution. Three sets at top, bottom, and middle. There's overlap but I've been doing great with it.

Even so, Im glad Party is offering the new feature to users. It's been talked abou

t forever.

[/ QUOTE ]

Big Limpin' 11-28-2005 03:31 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]

What I do want though is a macro that would let me go all-in at the press of a button.

[/ QUOTE ]


; Fold
F1::
MouseClick, left, 200, 320
Sleep, 10
MouseClick, left, 200, 340
Sleep, 10
return

; Check/Call
F2::
MouseClick, left, 257, 320
Sleep, 10
MouseClick, left, 257, 340
Sleep, 10
return

; Bet/Raise
F3::
MouseClick, left, 367, 335
Sleep, 10
return

; Push
F4::
MouseClickDrag, left, 227, 300, 243, 300
Sleep, 10
Send,9999
MouseClick, left, 367, 335
Sleep, 10
return

;Reset
Esc::
MouseClickDrag, left, 220, 300, 243, 300
Sleep, 10
return


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; WindowLeft
Left::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,-267,200
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return

; WindowDown
Down::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,267,600
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return

; WindowRight
Right::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,800,200
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return

; WindowUp
Up::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,267,-200
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

ChoicestHops 11-28-2005 03:33 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
My normal resolution is is 1280x1024. Here's a comparison so you can see what I mean. Picutres aren't the clearest but I like jacking up the resolution more and just dealing with the overlap. It's easier to read the boards.

beta
regular

nthn2fancy 11-28-2005 03:51 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
i have been 10 tabling. you know what would be nice, if party upped the max table amount.

Mr_J 11-28-2005 03:52 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
I hope party doesn't up the max amount. It's bad enough that everyone is 10tabling.

Mr_J 11-28-2005 03:53 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Actually I'd like you all to try and 12+ table...

golfcchs 11-28-2005 03:56 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I hope party doesn't up the max amount. It's bad enough that everyone is 10tabling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Care to explain this thought?

swiftrhett 11-28-2005 04:11 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
I would be 16 tabling if party had not killed the skins / lowered the action time.

swiftrhett 11-28-2005 04:31 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Maybe 6 and 4 tables on the 2005fpw is the way to go?

AA suited 11-28-2005 10:52 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
i have the Dell 2001f, 1600x1200, and 9tabling is too small for me.

instead i only shrink the tables a little and 6 table on the 2001f and 4 table on my 17" LCD. there's some overlap on the 2001f, but nothing horridenous.

KennyBanya 11-28-2005 11:09 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I hope party doesn't up the max amount. It's bad enough that everyone is 10tabling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Care to explain this thought?

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont mean to speak for Mr J, but I believe the isea is that mainly better players would jump from say 4 tabling to 10 tabling. This means more winning players are likely to be at your table.

Theoretically, very few losing players would add to the number of tables they play.

Peace,

KennyBanya

durron597 11-28-2005 11:11 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
BL... is that AutoHotKey?

tigerite 11-28-2005 11:28 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
It is, I have a similar script.

ilya 11-28-2005 11:43 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

What I do want though is a macro that would let me go all-in at the press of a button.

[/ QUOTE ]


; Fold
F1::
MouseClick, left, 200, 320
Sleep, 10
MouseClick, left, 200, 340
Sleep, 10
return

; Check/Call
F2::
MouseClick, left, 257, 320
Sleep, 10
MouseClick, left, 257, 340
Sleep, 10
return

; Bet/Raise
F3::
MouseClick, left, 367, 335
Sleep, 10
return

; Push
F4::
MouseClickDrag, left, 227, 300, 243, 300
Sleep, 10
Send,9999
MouseClick, left, 367, 335
Sleep, 10
return

;Reset
Esc::
MouseClickDrag, left, 220, 300, 243, 300
Sleep, 10
return


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
; WindowLeft
Left::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,-267,200
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return

; WindowDown
Down::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,267,600
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return

; WindowRight
Right::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,800,200
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return

; WindowUp
Up::
CoordMode, Mouse, Relative
MouseMove,267,-200
MouseGetPos, curPosX, curPosY, curWin
WinGetTitle, title, ahk_id %curWin%
WinActivate, %title%
return
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks Big...you aren't Skimpin on the Pimpin.

bluef0x 11-28-2005 02:15 PM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
How does this thing work? You press a key and it goes all-in on the table you have selected? What if a different table pops up?

citanul 11-28-2005 02:53 PM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
other slick thing about the beta:

if you're playing on a laptop and running large fonts, the normal party setup gets totally pwned. if you are playing on the resizable thing, you just click the side of a table and it auto resizes to eliminate the stupid dead space, and you can keep your big fonts! unfortunately the main lobby and tournament lobbies don't hold true to form. =(

c

11-29-2005 11:19 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I still want to wait for the new exciting features for 2006 before I buy too much.

[/ QUOTE ]

Interesting. What are you thinking of? Higher resolution? Better refresh rates? Larger screens?

Later,
ICMoney

DeathbySuckout 11-29-2005 01:41 PM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Has anybody had a problem with the program closing on it's own in the middle of tounaments? I played most of the day Saturday, and probably 3 or 4 times, I would click on a fold, call or raise button on one of the tables, and the program would close completly. Of course, you can re-open the program, and it would bring you right back into the games, but the tables would be in different positions, which really screws you up when you're into 8 or 9 tournaments.

12-05-2005 06:18 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Wouldn't most 2+2ers only playing 4 tables have an advantage over those playing 10 tables, since 10 is a lot to focus on? I mean, I realized a guy was 10-tabling the other day (and he won some money doing it) because I was playing at two of his tables, so I opened all of them, got a great PT/PA read on him and spanked him good.

Mr_J 12-05-2005 08:48 AM

Re: Anyone playing 10 tables with the beta software?
 
Yeh pretty much. I think more people multitable >4 tables now because it's just easier and more convenient than it used to be. Before you had to open another skin account etc but now you just open another table. The more tables a multitabler can play, the lower the % of fish at a table. Yes a good 4 tabler will have an advantage over a typical 10tabler, but the 10 tabler is still much better than the fish they've replaced, so the ROI of the 4tabler is seriously diminished.

Eg. Say Player A sits down with 9 fish. Say the skill level of player A is 5x greater than the skill of the fish. Player A is worth 38% of that prizepool, while the fish are only worth 7.7%.

Replace 3 fish with 3 profitable players of equal skill level. These players will have 2.5x the advantage of the fish, and half that of Player A. Now the fish are only worth 5.4% each and Player A is now only worth 27%. Each of the profitable players is worth 13.5%.

So while Player A has an advantage of the other 3 profitable players, they take a slice of the pie from the fish that Player A would have received had if fish had been there instead.

So yeh, the more tables party allows us to play, the worse the games will get. Course this doesn't mean we won't get a higher hourly rate in the process. But there is obviously a point where there are enough multitablers (or party allowing enough tables) that the extra tables we play have actually hurt our EV, and where we would've been better off had party not allowed extra tables, or there were less multitablers etc. I just hope I'm not around at that stage.


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