($11) QQ hand, good/bad/ugly?
 

blinds: 10/20 starting stax: 1500
im sb one lp limper i raise to 100 with QQ
bb folds lp calls
flop is Ad Kh Qd
i push...
what do you think?

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no one reraised you better lay down a pot sized bet.....you wanna make money off of it..if hes got AA that was just a dumb play by not reraising...same with KK..id put him on AK...but since its internet play he could have A through 2 =)

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id put him on AK

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why? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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This would be a tough spot for me. I don't like pushing here. I think if your going to get called, you'll be beat, and the pot is to small. I probably bet the pot, folding to an all in reraise. Assuming a call on the flop from the villain, i continue with a pot bet on the turn and maybe check behind on the river, unless i fill up. I'd also slow down if a j t or daimond fell

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Well what else is he gonna have?
rockets..nope..
kings..nope..
j 10?? if he is on tilt..why call a reraise with j10?..

who cares if he has 2 pair..you still got him beat...
AK wouldnt make sense either though..cause he probably woulda reraised..your right...

so now i put them on KQ or low pocket pair

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I probably bet the pot, folding to an all in reraise. Assuming a call on the flop from the villain, i continue with a pot bet on the turn and maybe check behind on the river, unless i fill up.

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hmmm...what's going in this forum tonight? i'm perplexed, no beyond perplexed, i'm flummoxed from the advice being given out tonight.

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Well what else is he gonna have?


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he limped preflop!! and you want to put him on AK? oh my word...

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Please re-read my post...

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i see the bottom part now. but why put him on KQ? how likely is the case Q hitting the flop? why put him on ANY hand? all u know is he open limped pf in lp, then called a raise. he probably does have some kind of mid PP, but really it's an $11 and you don't know what he has here. as for the flop open push, def. a bad play.

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To the OP - ignore my original response, i was overthinking it. This is after all only an $11
To bawcerelli - thanks for pointing out my overthinkinging (word?)

After re-evalulating this hand, i still don't push on the flop. I make pot bets and continue to until the river. If He raises all in on the flop, i'd be glad to call. He'll generally hold a hand weaker than yours, such as weark ace, maybe 2 pair, or even a straigh/flush draw - rarely will he hold jt.

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i see the bottom part now. but why put him on KQ? how likely is the case Q hitting the flop? why put him on ANY hand? all u know is he open limped pf in lp, then called a raise. he probably does have some kind of mid PP, but really it's an $11 and you don't know what he has here. as for the flop open push, def. a bad play.

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I entirely agree.. push is just total overkill. As for "he won't have JT because he called a raise". ROFL at an $11 they could have absolutely anything here. Anything. The play is awful. I'd bet 2/3rds pot and go from there.

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I'd bet 2/3rds pot and go from there.

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Do y our opinions change on this if the board is all 1 suit? I had a similar situation like this yesterday, sorry I don't have the hand history. I had KK in SB. I raised to 400, blinds are 50/100 and there was 1 limper in front. Limper called. I had about 1100 chips left after the initial bet pre-flop. Flop is K/9/8 all diamonds. Villain has me covered. Hero?

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In that situation I would push, to protect my hand, and also because if behind, I have many outs to come back. Also, you will be called by the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] often.

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The blinds are bigger and the pot is already bigger in this hand than original post, so pushing is good. You shouldn't be afraid of the flush when HU.

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In that situation I would push, to protect my hand, and also because if behind, I have many outs to come back. Also, you will be called by the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] often.

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Actually it was the naked 10 diamonds (Qc/10d) [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].

I did push, he called of course and diamond spiked on the river. I just wanted to be sure my play was correct given the situation. Thx!

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You made the right play, his call was atrocious