Time charge question
 

If you sit down at a time charge game and wait for the blind to come around, and a new dealer comes in before you've played your first hand and it will still be one or two hands before you're dealt in, are you expected to pay?

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You shouldnt have to until you start playing

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If you sit down at a time charge game and wait for the blind to come around, and a new dealer comes in before you've played your first hand and it will still be one or two hands before you're dealt in, are you expected to pay?

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yes

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In most places, you will be expected to pay. Different places have different customs regarding time collection, but in this case you are occupying a seat when the new dealer arrives so time will typically be collected. Lots of players try to angle shoot out of this sort of thing though.

Jeff

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Foxwoods answer: not if the light doesn't come on. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Speaking of the Wonder of the Connecticut Woods, I'm occasionally absent from my seat for a good while coloring out their silly yellow chips at the cage so I can play $1-2 NL. So far no one's attempted to charge me time if the light went out during that time. I'd be pretty upset (and probably just go back to play $4/8) if they tried to.

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In AC, the answer is yes if there is a list for the game. Even people who sit down shortly after the dealer have to pay. If there is no list, sometimes you can tell the floor that you won't start to play until after the time is dropped, and they'll drop the time.

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In the Borgata, a new player came to the table and asked if he had to pay time. The dealer said yes. Then he asked, don't new players don't pay time the first time they are at the table? We told him of course not. He was offended at the notion he had to pay time. He said he has played around the country and some places you don't initially have to pay time. Is this true anywhere?

You are paying for the seat...not playing
 

by the notion that you could wait and not pay you could just say "I'm tight...don't charge unless I play a hand"
If the 5/half is going to kill you then drop down to a rake game and don't worry about time

Especially at the Borgata there is generally a long list with people that are more than willing to pay the time.

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In the Borgata, a new player came to the table and asked if he had to pay time. The dealer said yes. Then he asked, don't new players don't pay time the first time they are at the table? We told him of course not. He was offended at the notion he had to pay time. He said he has played around the country and some places you don't initially have to pay time. Is this true anywhere?

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Generally the first time collecction is free unless there is a live board.

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Where I usually play, Lucky Chances, they take time immeadiately.

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Where I usually play, Lucky Chances, they take time immeadiately.

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Even with no board? It has been quite some time since I have been in a B&M, it is quite possible that they have cut back on the amount of free passes.

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If the 5/half is going to kill you then drop down to a rake game and don't worry about time. (emphasis added)

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I'm eager to hear what no-limit game you'd have me "drop down to" at Foxwoods.

Of course I can play low-limit games -- I usually do -- but they don't fulfill my goal of learning to play live NLHE.

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Most places nowadays it's a race with the floor. If you get there before the floor comes by and says drop the time you pay, get there after time is dropped it's free.

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My experience has always been that if you have chips on the table when the time charge is due, you pay, regardless of your situation. If you come in after time is collected, you "might" just get yourself up to almost a half hour free, but that's not always going to be true. Some houses have charged me a portion of the time charge when seating me, 1/3 or 2/3 of it, depending on how much time was left before the next time charge was due. This was typical in san diego (at the lucky lady) before they went to a drop system. (the board made no difference)

al

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A local room collects full time if you start playing within ~10 minutes from when time was last collected, and nothing afterwards. If time was *just* collected, it would make no difference if you waited until you came in, as you would be paying anyway.

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I agree with BKyef. In all my experience at the Foxwoods 1/2NL game, it all depends on when the floor comes around to tell the dealer to drop the money. And/or if they have the full $50 yet. If they person whose seat you took paid the time already, I can't imagine that they would ask you to pay the $5 and drop more than $50.

If the floor comes around and sees $45 and a full table, he is going to ask who didn't pay and have them pay. I've seen it done. I guess some floor might not make them pay, but it seems like the exception rather than the rule.

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If they person whose seat you took paid the time already, I can't imagine that they would ask you to pay the $5 and drop more than $50.

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Foxwoods did precisely this on my last visit.