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stillbr 11-26-2005 11:51 AM

How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
How likely is it for pokerstars to come out with mini view now that party has it?

GrannyMae 11-26-2005 01:00 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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How likely is it for pokerstars to come out with mini view now that party has it?

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LONG time coming imo.

lee has stated here that the programmer's priorities are on specific things. i have not seen him mention a sizeable window.

i suspect that this was a very large job for party to program. if not, all the big sites would have it. zero doubt.

smoore 11-26-2005 01:50 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
They will, it's only a matter of time. I think they have more important things to do... although I haven't noticed any problems, I'm sure scalability is first and foremost. I have a feeling that getting draw software is a pretty big priority, as party doesn't have draw.

When they do implement mini tables, I hope they follow party's lead and make the tables LOOK the same as the normal size tables. I dislike the mini-view from UB and prima. I don't care if I can rezise them, I'd rather be able to choose my default table size in the options and have a menu to select between a few sizes on the tables themselves.

MyMindIsGoing 11-26-2005 01:59 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
I think there should be three sizes on all serious nets. Standard 800 width, then mini as a few have with 512. 512 tables usually look diffrent (too diffrent to me), but as I see it there should also be a 640 version that looks the same as 800, but just 20% smaller, would be very nice. Now most people could quad table on a standard 1280*1024 monitor.

11-26-2005 02:06 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
So what is it that the Poker Stars programmers are working on? The software really hasn't changed much in a while. Same for basically every poker site out there. These programs aren't that complex, why don't they upgrade them more often?

RikaKazak 11-26-2005 02:07 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
how do you change pp to mini view?? I can't figure it out

MyMindIsGoing 11-26-2005 02:36 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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why don't they upgrade them more often?

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It cost alot of money, and they want to maximize revenue.

Rudbaeck 11-26-2005 02:46 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
It's a near certainty. Only question is how quick they will be able to push it out the door. This is something that caters heavily to high volume players, and Stars doesn't want to lose even more of those to Party.

Freudian 11-26-2005 04:13 PM

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why don't they upgrade them more often?

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It cost alot of money, and they want to maximize revenue.

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I would expect both Party and Pokerstars to have in-house programmers.

MyMindIsGoing 11-26-2005 04:18 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
That work for free and test the software for free for months and months before releasing?

BradleyT 11-26-2005 04:23 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
It's really quite simple for any programmer with more than 1 year experience.

Edit - giving a single programmer 1 week to accomplish it would be generous.

GrannyMae 11-26-2005 04:51 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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It's really quite simple for any programmer with more than 1 year experience.

Edit - giving a single programmer 1 week to accomplish it would be generous.

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i've been told different.

if this is the case, then why has it taken so long?

PokerAce 11-26-2005 05:12 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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It's really quite simple for any programmer with more than 1 year experience.

Edit - giving a single programmer 1 week to accomplish it would be generous.

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Have you ever done any software development? If so, have you done any software development on a very large scale application that manipulates money 24/7?

On top of that, have you ever tried to add a new feature to a software package that has been written by dozens of different programmers over the course of several years?

evil_twin 11-26-2005 05:15 PM

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Edit - giving a single programmer 1 week to accomplish it would be generous.

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Honestly, this is just pure garbage.

PokerAce 11-26-2005 05:28 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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Edit - giving a single programmer 1 week to accomplish it would be generous.

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Honestly, this is just pure garbage.

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Maybe he's a PHB. They seem to expect things to happen in 1/10th the time of what is humanly possible. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Scotty O 11-26-2005 06:02 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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I dislike the mini-view from UB and prima. I don't care if I can rezise them, I'd rather be able to choose my default table size in the options and have a menu to select between a few sizes on the tables themselves.

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I think UB's mini view is great. Names, numbers and cards, no fluff.

Scotty O

BradleyT 11-26-2005 10:12 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
Ever written an image handler? On window resize you call it and it returns the scaled down size for all static images. It IS easy and fast.

PokerAce 11-26-2005 10:24 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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Ever written an image handler? On window resize you call it and it returns the scaled down size for all static images. It IS easy and fast.

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Not only does the image need resized, but you have hotspots for the buttons and so forth. Then it needs tested to make sure everything works properly.

Take into account that the drawing code in the Party client is unlikely buffered, but directly blitted to the screen. That means the entire screen drawing code needs reworked. I seriously doubt that would be a simple task.

It would be nice if things were as easy as "all we have to do is shrink the image." Man, I wish all I had to say was "all I have to do is add Pacific and Paradise and whatever support." Unfortunately, there's a lot more work involved.

If you've never worked on an application that has been written by multiple developers over the course of several years, you really don't fully understand how touchy even the smallest changes can be.

Timer 11-27-2005 12:21 AM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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I have a feeling that getting draw software is a pretty big priority, as party doesn't have draw.

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If getting draw is a priority, then they don't know what they are doing. To me this is just another example of Stars spreading themselves too thin.

11-27-2005 02:28 AM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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I have a feeling that getting draw software is a pretty big priority, as party doesn't have draw.

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If getting draw is a priority, then they don't know what they are doing. To me this is just another example of Stars spreading themselves too thin.

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If getting draw capabilities were a priority, Lee Jones would have known about it before his techies told him.

skoal2k4 11-27-2005 09:49 PM

Re: How likely is it for PS to come out with mini view?
 
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It's a near certainty. Only question is how quick they will be able to push it out the door. This is something that caters heavily to high volume players, and Stars doesn't want to lose even more of those to Party.

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I emailed support about this today. They replied saying they have no plans at this time to implement such a feature [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]


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