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AK heads up check up

Excuse me if this is boringly standard, but I'm investigating possible leaks this week and wondering if this is one of them.

Villain has TAG stats: 18/10/1.3 after 96 hands. I don't recall getting involved with him before this hand -- and hey, if you're a 2+2er and reading this, Villain, maybe you wanna chime in if you remember this hand.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 5 folds, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets...

Since I just had his stats to go on, I put him on a normal TAG 3-betting range, which means AA-TT, AK, AQs pretty much. 99 if he's pretty frisky. Since QTs is the best flush draw he can have, and I doubt he'd 3-bet that, it was hard to put him on a draw here. So on the flop I decided to treat it as a WA/WB hand, figuring any aggression I made would get hands drawing to 2 outs to fold, or get reraised by better hands.

I haven't used the check-call check-call bet line as much lately, but on this flop I decided to go with it. Should I have changed plans? What's the what is, peeps.

Re: AK heads up check up

Seems reasonable. That is probably how I would have played it. What's your planif you get raised on the river?

Re: AK heads up check up

You're actually more likely to be tied than behind, and there's a pretty good chance you're ahead.

Well, let's see. Using the range you provide, we get this:

AA = 1
JJ = 1

AK = 6

AQs = 2
KK = 3
QQ = 6
TT = 6

So, yeah, our chances look good, but I'm not sure where that leaves us. We're unlikely to get lots of action out of anything in this range that we beat, and with hands like TT and QQ, Villain might find a fold.

I think we want some bets going in. But we're out of position and Villain is the biggest preflop aggressor. Putting in a raise represents what we have, which is bad for us if Villain has QQ and decides to believe us.

Your line seems okay to me, and it's probably what I would have done. But I'm also open to other suggestions.

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What's your plan if you get raised on the river?

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Urinate in my pants and call.

Re: AK heads up check up

Looks good, you wear adult diapers while you play too, right?

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What's your plan if you get raised on the river?

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Urinate in my pants and call.

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do you poop your pants when villian shows K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

Re: AK heads up check up

I would either bet this flop or seeing how you checked it I would check raise it. Seeing how you did neither I would bet the turn...or seeing how you didn't do that I would check raise the turn. You have a made hand. (if this is all wrong I appologize as I have been drinking heavely)

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do you poop your pants when villian shows K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

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One testicle crawled up into my pelvis when he raised, I called, and he showed TT. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: AK heads up check up

Ouch thats almost as ugly as KQ. Your line still makes the most $$ though.

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Ouch thats almost as ugly as KQ. Your line still makes the most $$ though.

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Actually, it's MORE ugly because he had fewer outs. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Your line seems fine.

Re: AK heads up check up

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Villian is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero raises, 5 folds, Villian 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Villian bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Villian bets, Hero raises, Villian ?

Hero has way more information about Villian's hand than vice versa.
Given this fact and that Villian has an AF of only 1.3 postflop, how often do you think that Hero gets his c/r 3bet here?

Re: AK heads up check up

I don't think I would take the WA/WB line here joker. If you had something like AJ I would but you're way ahead way more often than behind. Because of that, I would c/r the turn.

Re: AK heads up check up

I would not play the hand this way myself, but see the merit in this line and would like to incorporate it more in my play. Problem with this line is that you might have to fold to a raise on the river, because he is not raising you with KK/99 or AQ. If he is the type to get tricky with a bluff/value raise on the river, then I would be raising the flop or the turn because he may play back at you with a worse hand.

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What % of the time does a TAG call your river donk with QQ,KK? I think he has to call ~2/3 of the time for this river line to be profitible if you are calling a raise.

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I don't think I would take the WA/WB line here joker. If you had something like AJ I would but you're way ahead way more often than behind. Because of that, I would c/r the turn.

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Is this a typo, or am I missing something? If we have AJ we're way, way, way ahead.