Dr. David Duke: Ambassador of Peace?
 

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Dr. David Duke: Ambassador of Peace?

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David Duke is a slug of a human. In the 70s he used to march on the steps at LSU in a Stormtrooper uniform. In the 80s and 90s he decided to try politics, so he publicly renounced his neo-Nazi and KKK past. After he lost, he put his white robes back on. In the 00s he fled the country, indicted for campaign finance fraud.

Anyone who supports this man should rethink.

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astonishing -

Goddamn Nazis.

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RB

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astonishing -

Goddamn Nazis.

Didn't he run as a Republican?



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Haha, NO, he actually ran as a Democrat.

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Anyone who supports this man should rethink.

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Yes, but they won't.

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he's still a goddamn Nazi - numbnut...LOL -

He's a little before my time - I wasn't informed on politics at the time - I think I was a teenager trying to figure out how to get into the holiest of holies.

RB

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astonishing -

Goddamn Nazis.

Didn't he run as a Republican?



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Haha, NO, he actually ran as a Democrat.

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Actually MMMMMM, I'm fairly certain he did run as a repub in Louisiana, although the party backed another repub against him.

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you are most assuredly right - he ran as a Republican - after 1988 - This isn't that unusual as a lot of Dixiecrats switched sides after the Democrats were instrumental in pushing Civil Rights Legislation thru.

What did LBJ say when he signed the bill? - He had just delivered the Republican Party all the Electoral College votes in the Deep South for the next 20 years? Lot of cross burners changed sides to the party that looks like white bread.

He was a Democrat till then and he switched parties in '89 - guess all the liberals and gays and Jews were too much for him in our Democratic Party - good riddance, I say.

Here's a wikipedia link - He is definately running as a Republican these days. -

I'm inclined to not tar all Republicans with his taint, but it wouldn't surprise me to see his mentality in some of the good ol' boys down south in lesser ways - (Trent Lott, for example, was known to make some nice racial cracks in his day)

RB

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you are most assuredly right - he ran as a Republican - after 1988 -

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OK, that is true; I just looked it up;-)

According to Wikipedia, Duke ran in 1976 as a Democrat, in 1888 as a Democrat, later again in 1988 as a member of the Populist Party, and in 1989 as a Republican. In 2000 he supported Par Buchanan of the Reform Party, thereby embarrassing Buchanan, who "declined to discuss it whenever questioned by reporters" (lol) ;-)


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This isn't that unusual as a lot of Dixiecrats switched sides after the Democrats were instrumental in pushing Civil Rights Legislation thru.

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It's also true that a lot of Dixiecrats switched sides, BUT I believe you've got one part backwards: it seems the Republicans were more instrumental than the Democrats in pushing through Civil Rights Legislation:


(excerpt)"Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act."(end excerpt)


And going back much earlier, the Democrats' record on Jim Crow laws, emancipation, right to vote and other such things was even worse compared to the Republicans:


(excerpt)"Emancipation? Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, three of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

Civil-rights laws? In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 – with 6 not voting – in the House, and 30 of 32 – with 2 not voting – in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

Right to vote? When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.

Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil-rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil-rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil-rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states." (end excerpt)

Larry Elder

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And lets not forget good ol' Robert Byrd, a man who used the phrase "white nigger" twice in a recorded interview and is a former Klan member, who also filibustered the Civil Rights Act. I feel like throwing up whenever someone refers to him as the conscience of the Senate.

Re: Dr. David Duke: Ambassador of Peace?
 

David Duke is a first class piece of dirt. When he ran for governor against Edwin Edwards, the bumper stickers supporting Edwards read, "Vote for the Crook. It's important." I very happily cast my vote for Edwin Edwards, although I was in the minority of white voters. Because of his strength with African-American voters who came out in droves to vote against Duke, Edwards won, of course, without support of the white majority. Ironically, of course, Duke and Edwards are both crooks who were guests of the fedeal penal system at the same time. Duke was also elected (as a Republican) to the Louisiana legislature respresenting Old Metairie (very upscale white neighborhood) and Bucktown (white working class fishing/shrimping area). He bilked his supporters (not that I feel sorry for them) by using their contributions to gamble. He hid out from the federal government in Russia where apparently he found a ready audience for his anti-Semitic views. While the voters of Louisiana saw him as primarily anti-African-American, the issue dearest to his heart is anti-Semitism/Nazism. Mike Foster, governor of Louisiana prior to the present incumbent, Mrs. Bunker, uh, Blanco, was embarrassed when it came to light that he had secretly purchased the list of Duke contributors for a tidy sum. And David Duke has a really bad nose job, not as bad as Michael Jackson's, but really bad nonetheless.

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I was stunned by the OP's article -

to the Middle East, America is the devil incarnate - but take an American who makes statements like "My country is also persecuted by the Jews" and apparently you're a good American who is welcome - ay carumba.

The fact of the matter is Germany got away with persecuting and killing a LOT of the jews because other countries refused to let them emigrate to their country - lots of anti-semitism still out there - No wonder they're fighting so damned hard for their homeland - 2000 years of persecution, and promises of "freedom for all" have to be taken with a grain of salt, even when it comes from us.

I'd be defending my rights with a gun too...but this is something for the Cyrus/MMMMMMMM thread - LOL.

David Duke - jeez - what a [censored] wanker....

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Interesting side note - When I watched Shanghai Ghetto, (a story about Jews that migrated to Shanghai during WWII) - the Japanese were better to them then you might expect.

the Japanese also bought the stereotypes that the Jews run all international banking, etc,etc that Hitler fired out, but instead of becoming racists, the Japanese felt that "Well, if their people do run the world economy, we better treat them right"

and so they never suffered the sort of Persecution under the Japanese they did under the Germans - not even close - they just had to hide out in the international community til the end of WWII - Japan may have been Hitler's ally, but their genocidal behavior was more targeted towards other Asians.

RB

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I don't refute your point that that a higher percentage of Republicans then Democrats signed the original act, (though not in greater numbers then the Democrats, seeing as how they were the minority party.) - but that fact alone doesn't establish the Republicans as the darlings of civil rights or anything.

Several Democrats, including Mike Mansfield, pulled some interesting parlimentary procedures to get that thing on the floor for an honest vote. The two leading drivers of this bill, Mansfield and Hubret Humphrey, were both Democrats and were LBJ's go-to guys in getting it passed.

In 1964, the Republicans nominamted Goldwater, who voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act - so it wasn't of paramount importance to them. but after LBJ, the head Democrat signed it, a lot of them sure stopped singing Dixie and changed sides....there was a DEFINATE defection from the Democratic party in 1968 and one of the places they went was the Grand Ol' Party. - Trent Lott made his colors clear in Thurmond's goodbye speech and he lost his catbird seat because of it.

Some became Republicans - some voted for George Wallace - LBJ was right -signing that act gave the South to the Republicans - very very interesting how that worked.

But in the end, both sides have had some pretty dishonorable racists - Byrd was one - Sturm and Lott were others....at the end of the day, we can agree that Politicans will say whatever they can to get elected, including practicing racism...

But fortunately, a vast majority of Americans now think guys like David Duke are [censored] wankers.

The Voting Rights Act got a 25 year extention that will theoretically expire in 2007 - it'll be interesting to see how many Politicians and from what side will jump on the bandwagon to not renew it - LOL - they SAY it's not necessary anymore, but I say any right not written into law and protected is a right that can be taken away too easily.

The fact is, despite the voting record, the reason the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts passed when it did and not years later is because Democrats with a dedication to equality pushed it thru, sometimes with a sledgehammer, as I understand it.

Disclaimer - I grew up in MT where we rever Mike Mansfield as probably the finest politican who ever came out of Montana. I was reading where he was a target of McCarthy's smears, but he was so beloved in MT that no one really in his home state gave a rats ass what the drunken alkie Joseph McCarthy though. He was one of the few who survived the McCarthy BS parade with his reputation pretty much fully intact.

RB

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And lets not forget good ol' Robert Byrd. I feel like throwing up whenever someone refers to him as the conscience of the Senate.

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People change. Byrd moved towards the mainstream and went on become a good Senator. Duke continued on his extremist ideas (which he barely managed to hide in his "legit" campaigns).