Card Trackers or pure Stupidity
 

Alright, so party poker and heres wat happened:

***** Hand History for Game 3076999663 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17629960 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, November 22, 12:51:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 67342 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: hadjisme ( $800 )
Seat 6: Gindo ( $800 )
Seat 7: OPH11 ( $800 )
Seat 4: oOflipflopOo ( $420 )
Seat 9: drjustice ( $800 )
Seat 3: skolnick6 ( $790 )
Seat 1: str8face24 ( $800 )
Seat 8: fcfjr ( $720 )
Seat 2: wonniewadd ( $800 )
Seat 10: CGalvan ( $1270 )
Trny:17629960 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gindo [ Qh Qs ]
Gindo calls [15].
OPH11 folds.
fcfjr calls [15].
drjustice folds.
CGalvan calls [15].
str8face24 folds.
wonniewadd folds.
skolnick6 folds.
oOflipflopOo calls [5].
hadjisme raises [15].
Gindo raises [70].
fcfjr calls [70].
CGalvan folds.
oOflipflopOo will be using his time bank for this hand.
str8face24: zzz today
oOflipflopOo did not respond in time.
oOflipflopOo folds.
hadjisme raises [120].
Gindo calls [65].
fcfjr calls [65].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 3d, 7h ]
hadjisme bets [125].
OPH11: wake me up later str8
Gindo is all-In [650]
fcfjr folds.
hadjisme is all-In [525]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
hadjisme shows [ Kh, 6d ] three of a kind, kings.
Gindo shows [ Qh, Qs ] two pairs, kings and queens.
hadjisme wins 1780 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, kings.
Gindo finished in tenth place.
Gindo has left the table. \

SO basically PLEASE tell me what i did wrong here? or is the guy using those rumored Card Trackers?

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This guy is using one of those rumored card trackers.

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Are you serious? You're asking if someone in a $10 buy in is using a 'card tracker' or is he just an idiot?

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This guy is using one of those rumored card trackers.

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I change my response....I like Guthrie's better. I see the light now.

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He clearly has the new log10 pattern map. I didn't even know they we sufficiently accurate for use in sit n goes.

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Oh my, that's definitely a card tracker.

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Neither...

hadjisme is a documented PartyPoker bot. Yoou can read about it here

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Neither...

hadjisme is a documented PartyPoker bot. Yoou can read about it here

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nh

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Card Tracker + Poker Bot + PP is rigged = You lost $11

You should buy a card tracker it is great to know what cards are coming, plus we all use it so it is only fair for you to get one.

If you send me $100, tell me your cards and what flopped I can tell you the turn card (number and suit) with a accuracy rate of 1 in 47.

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** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gindo [ Qh Qs ]
Gindo calls [15].


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Am I the only one that caught this? You limped in with QQ, a very excellent hand but also very vulnerable to overcards. Do you really want people with A7o getting a chance to limp in with you, catch an ace on the flop and then break you?

Was this a pathetic attempt at "slow playing" like you hear about on TV?

You also have to bear in mind in online tournaments and SNG's morons are quick to call big bets and all'ins early on, so you will get paid off by raising initially.

You then attempted to reraise hte mini raise (he miniraised to 30 and you reraise to 100, as best I read it). You have to look at how much money is on the table and what sort of odds you are giving people to chase.

His flop call was idiotic and the guy got lucky to beat you but you played the hand horribly.

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** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gindo [ Qh Qs ]
Gindo calls [15].


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His flop call was idiotic and the guy got lucky to beat you but you played the hand horribly.

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Yeah, you really mucked this one up badly. Sadly, suckouts will happen. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Gindo [ Qh Qs ]
Gindo calls [15].


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Am I the only one that caught this? You limped in with QQ, a very excellent hand but also very vulnerable to overcards. Do you really want people with A7o getting a chance to limp in with you, catch an ace on the flop and then break you?

Was this a pathetic attempt at "slow playing" like you hear about on TV?

You also have to bear in mind in online tournaments and SNG's morons are quick to call big bets and all'ins early on, so you will get paid off by raising initially.

You then attempted to reraise hte mini raise (he miniraised to 30 and you reraise to 100, as best I read it). You have to look at how much money is on the table and what sort of odds you are giving people to chase.

His flop call was idiotic and the guy got lucky to beat you but you played the hand horribly.

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he lrr...65 chips. weak.

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you tell me. the guy was like a million to one underdog when he flopped NOTHING, and youre asking if he knew it was coming? im sorry that everyone is being so rude but sometimes its just so obvious that its not worth asking.

i suggest getting into stud. the developers (one of whom i know very closely. you can pm me for details) have not gotten around to developing card trackers for stud yet so that should be safe.

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I'm not a betting man, but I would bet my life that this "hadjisme" is a cheat and is using some kind of illigal device.
I would write a letter.

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He clearly has the new log10 pattern map. I didn't even know they we sufficiently accurate for use in sit n goes.

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They've been working on a tourney version for some time. There's even a wristwatch version for live play - Steve Dannenmann beta-tested it during the WSOP. Obviously it isn't perfect.

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WTF? he had a flush draw!

tripdad

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The guys around here sure love a good joke...

Seriously...there is a piece of software (I won't name it here)
that is used this way: you enter the hand# and it will decode
it (like a barcode or a checksum) to determine what 5 cards
will appear on the flop. This is also used by Party Support to
determine if there was any hacking, etc. because they can just
decode the number string to get the flop that was supposed to
hit.

The bad part is you cannot read opponents' hole cards or determine
what order the cards will hit the flop...just the cards themselves. There
is a known bug when using the "four color deck" option that will not
correctly assign the right suit to a card, but the rank is the same.

I really hate that software like this exsists...but if you are among the
few people who use it then all the better. Be VERY CAREFUL trying
to download it online or from another player, because there are often
"backdoors" like viruses and utilities that let your "friend" see your
hole cards.

Best of luck, and hurry before Party changes their checksum
algorithms after the 1st of the year...(although they will crack
the new one too eventually!)

-ZEN

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Dude, he flopped a pat ALL-RED flush! Of course he's calling your all-in.

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STOP THE PRESSES AND CALL YOUR LOCAL CONGRESSMAN!!!




...if you could beat the game would you be playing 10/1's?

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It's a $10 tourney, what do you think? Feel free to engage your brain before posting.

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This is a card tracker no doubt.

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and they say the WPT forum has the worst posts.