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OT: 6000 post update

So, preface: I think everyone has a license to update the forum on how they're doing at either a 1000 post mark, or upon reaching Pooh-Bah or Carpal \'Tunnel. Plus I've made some posts of the sort like "running badly", found here, so perhaps people are interested in the follow up. If not, please disregard this thread.

So in the middle up September I had a 3% ROI at the $16s and was boggled about all these 40% ROI posts that people make - I became convinced that the $16s are harder they should be and moved up. Whether I sucked, they were harder than buyin dictated, or what, I don't know. But I moved up anyway pushing my bankroll to the limit, just to take a short.

Well, here I am 1000 posts, 312 $27 sngs, and 2 months later (I have a full time job and only 3 table which is why I post so much more than I play):

ITM: 42.31%
ROI: 15.65%

Net amount won: $1318.50

Finish distribution:
1: 44 (14.10%)
2: 37 (11.86%)
3: 51 (16.35%)
4: 35 (11.22%)
5: 34 (10.9%)
6: 44 (14.1%)
7: 36 (11.54%)
8: 20 (6.41%)
9: 11 (3.53%)

Conclusions: I think it's possible I get a little too impatient around 75/150 blinds. But more importantly I am screwing up 3 handed. I think some of it is random unfortunate happenenings (I push A7o on the button, other big stack calls with AQ, and I give second to the other guy). Recently I've been on a bad run with firsts, that's just poor luck and poorly timed bluffs. Right now I am a net loser in 300/600... loss of 42,151 chips. But I pulled my 15/30 and 75/150 stats into the green, which is good.

I think I'm gonna start posting more three handed hands. But the problem with three handed is that a lot of it has to do with how the game has been playing so far, but I'll see if I can find some interesting ones.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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So, preface: I think everyone has a license to update the forum on how they're doing at either a 1000 post mark, or upon reaching Pooh-Bah or Carpal \'Tunnel. Plus I've made some posts of the sort like "running badly", found here, so perhaps people are interested in the follow up. If not, please disregard this thread.

So in the middle up September I had a 3% ROI at the $16s and was boggled about all these 40% ROI posts that people make - I became convinced that the $16s are harder they should be and moved up. Whether I sucked, they were harder than buyin dictated, or what, I don't know. But I moved up anyway pushing my bankroll to the limit, just to take a short.

Well, here I am 1000 posts, 312 $27 sngs, and 2 months later (I have a full time job and only 3 table which is why I post so much more than I play):

ITM: 42.31%
ROI: 15.65%

Net amount won: $1318.50

Finish distribution:
1: 44 (14.10%)
2: 37 (11.86%)
3: 51 (16.35%)
4: 35 (11.22%)
5: 34 (10.9%)
6: 44 (14.1%)
7: 36 (11.54%)
8: 20 (6.41%)
9: 11 (3.53%)

Conclusions: I think it's possible I get a little too impatient around 75/150 blinds. But more importantly I am screwing up 3 handed. I think some of it is random unfortunate happenenings (I push A7o on the button, other big stack calls with AQ, and I give second to the other guy). Recently I've been on a bad run with firsts, that's just poor luck and poorly timed bluffs. Right now I am a net loser in 300/600... loss of 42,151 chips. But I pulled my 15/30 and 75/150 stats into the green, which is good.

I think I'm gonna start posting more three handed hands. But the problem with three handed is that a lot of it has to do with how the game has been playing so far, but I'll see if I can find some interesting ones.

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If its any help, my last 500 at the 27s shows a ROI of 15.something and I just recently pulled my 300/600 out of the red...this was preceeded by pulling 75/150 out of the red a few weeks ago. Small samples, yet interesting in some way I imagine...unless we're the same person.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

I'm sure I speak for the lower limit Sng players (and myself) when I say, thanks for your contributions as a moderator and for posting interesting hands that create discussion. You keep the forum going in the right direction, and hopefully your pocketbook will grow in time.

Keep up the good work

HC

Re: OT: 6000 post update

It looks like you don't bubble out enough. That would lead to you going into the money with a lower stack more often, making a 3rd place finish more likely.

Of course, I have pretty much the same problem. I don't know how to fix it really, so if you figure something out, let me know.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

Personally I play more aggro when it comes down to 4-handed play. I punish the mid stacks tremendously, and my breakdown for 1sts is way higher than 2nds. This is from a ~41% ITM and 25% ROI at the $33s.

Work in progress at the $55s though... will post more info when I get a sig. sample size.

Thanks for the moderating, yo. When's the NYC Get together?

Re: OT: 6000 post update

Thanks for the update. Your work as a mod (and poster) is definitely appreciated.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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It looks like you don't bubble out enough. That would lead to you going into the money with a lower stack more often, making a 3rd place finish more likely.

Of course, I have pretty much the same problem. I don't know how to fix it really, so if you figure something out, let me know.

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I actually am coming into 3 handed usually with a pretty nice stack, I just seem to be donking the chips off. Here are a few recent hands...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6277)
SB (t3065)
Hero (t4158)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t400, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t800) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t600, Hero raises to t3758,

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t3465)
Hero (t2985)
Button (t7050)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button raises to t600, SB calls t500, Hero raises to t2960,

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t6650)
Button (t2709)
SB (t4141)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t800, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1250) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1000, SB raises to t2000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t4250

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t7005)
Button (t3155)
Hero (t3340)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t300, BB calls t300.

Turn: (t950) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t800, BB calls t800.

River: (t2550) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t800, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3350

Here are the last few hands of a recent sng:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t5865)
SB (t2380)
BB (t1860)
Hero (t3395)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t3345, 2 folds, BB calls t1210 (All-In).

Flop: (t4705) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t4705) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4705) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t4705

Results in white below: 
BB has 3c Jc (one pair, threes).
Hero has 9h Ac (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins t4705. 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t5815)
Button (t2030)
Hero (t5655)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds.

Final Pot: t150

Results in white below: 
No showdown. BB wins t150. 

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(Prolly should have pushed this...)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t6215)
BB (t1980)
Hero (t5305)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t1000) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Turn: (t1000) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t1200, BB folds.

Final Pot: t2200

Results in white below: 
No showdown. SB wins t2200. 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6915)
SB (t1330)
Hero (t5255)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t1280, Hero calls t680.

Flop: (t2060) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t2060) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t2060) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t2060

Results in white below: 
SB has Kd 7d (full house, kings full of sevens).
Hero has 3s Js (two pair, kings and sevens).
Outcome: SB wins t2060. 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t6865)
Button (t2710)
Hero (t3925)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button raises to t2710, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t2810

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Button wins t2810. 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t6215)
BB (t3710)
Hero (t3575)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t1850, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t1950

Results in white below: 
No showdown. SB wins t1950. 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6915)
SB (t3060)
Hero (t3525)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Button raises to t1850, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t1950

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Button wins t1950. 

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t7915)
Button (t2710)
Hero (t2875)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t2825, BB calls t2225.

Flop: (t5150) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: (t5150) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t5150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t5150

Results in white below: 
BB has Jh Jc (two pair, jacks and fours).
Hero has Ad 5h (one pair, fours).
Outcome: BB wins t5150.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

over how many games?

Re: Here are the last few hands of a recent sng:

J2s hand? I might push there...but I'm crazy like that.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6277)
SB (t3065)
Hero (t4158)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t400, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t800) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t600, Hero raises to t3758

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Ewwww, gross. I defend 65o about never, even with a ginormous stack. And if I do, it's not going in with a draw to the assend of a 4-straight.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t3465)
Hero (t2985)
Button (t7050)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Button raises to t600, SB calls t500, Hero raises to t2960

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I play the same.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t6650)
Button (t2709)
SB (t4141)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, SB raises to t800, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1250) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t1000, SB raises to t2000, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t4250

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I likely check behind on the flop. I rarely try to muscle preflop raisers out of flops I whiffed on when they check to me.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t7005)
Button (t3155)
Hero (t3340)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t350) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t300, BB calls t300.

Turn: (t950) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t800, BB calls t800.

River: (t2550) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t800, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3350

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I push the turn. OES+FD = run it.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t5865)
SB (t2380)
BB (t1860)
Hero (t3395)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, A.
Hero raises to t3345, 2 folds, BB calls t1210 (All-In).

Flop: (t4705) 6, Q, 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t4705) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4705) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t4705

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This looks good.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t5815)
Button (t2030)
Hero (t5655)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 5.
2 folds.

Final Pot: t150

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I like the fold. Why get in a battle here, with this hand?

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t6215)
BB (t1980)
Hero (t5305)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, J.
1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t1000) T, 7, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Turn: (t1000) J (2 players)
SB bets t1200, BB folds.

Final Pot: t2200

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Why not call this and play some poker? I would call and fold to a significant raise.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6915)
SB (t1330)
Hero (t5255)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, J.
1 fold, SB raises to t1280, Hero calls t680.

Flop: (t2060) 7, K, 7 (2 players)

Turn: (t2060) K (2 players)

River: (t2060) 8 (2 players)

Final Pot: t2060

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Unless a read tells you different, I fold this.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t6865)
Button (t2710)
Hero (t3925)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, 6.
Button raises to t2710, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t2810

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I think this fold is fine.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB (t6215)
BB (t3710)
Hero (t3575)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, 2.
1 fold, SB raises to t1850, 1 fold.

Final Pot: t1950

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This is fine also.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t6915)
SB (t3060)
Hero (t3525)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 2.
Button raises to t1850, 2 folds.

Final Pot: t1950

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Good fold.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t7915)
Button (t2710)
Hero (t2875)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 5.
1 fold, Hero raises to t2825, BB calls t2225.

Flop: (t5150) 9, 4, 2 (2 players)

Turn: (t5150) 6 (2 players)

River: (t5150) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: t5150

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I push this also.

Also Durron, thanks for all you add to the forum. I read a lot more than I post, and I think your posts are quality. And you're doing a great job as a mod also.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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Ewwww, gross. I defend 65o about never, even with a ginormous stack. And if I do, it's not going in with a draw to the assend of a 4-straight.

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There were antes, and I had position. I am never folding preflop, ever, especially not with a connector.

Flop I can agree with you.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

the straight on the last hand isn't open ended, it's a double gutshot though.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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the straight on the last hand isn't open ended, it's a double gutshot though.

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He knows that... I dunno, I felt like he either has a king and will call or he doesn't and will fold to the 800, so why get my whole stack in as a dog? Thoughts? Maybe the hand deserves a separate thread.

Re: OT: 6000 post update

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If its any help, my last 500 at the 27s shows a ROI of 15.something and I just recently pulled my 300/600 out of the red...this was preceeded by pulling 75/150 out of the red a few weeks ago. Small samples, yet interesting in some way I imagine...unless we're the same person.

[/ QUOTE ]I've played 400 16s and 27s (about 7:1 in favor of 16s) at 20% ROI and recently noted that I've won more chips at 300/600 than any other level (more than all the other positive levels combined). In terms of BB/hand, I only do better at 10/20. But, I'm negative chips at 200/400 and 400/800. I suspect we're all dealing with sample sizes that are too small to really tell us anything about how we play a specific level.

Re: Here are the last few hands of a recent sng:

It looks fine to me. Get better cards next time...