50NL: Trips on scary board
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($41.45)
MP1 ($50.70)
MP2 ($54.35)
Hero ($111.05)
CO ($10.55)
Button ($48.05)
SB ($80.07)
BB ($50)
UTG ($52.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, SB calls $8.55, Hero calls $2.55.

Turn: ($23.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($23.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $38.60
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $23.60, won by SB.</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $15, between UTG+1, CO and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by SB ($15).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Kc Jd (two pair, kings and jacks).
UTG+1 doesn't show.
CO has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: SB wins $38.60. </font>

The river bet really confused me. I would have called $5... but $15 seems a little high for me to call. I had a good hand but there was just too much that beat me to call that bet. Any thoughts?

Re: 50NL: Trips on scary board
 

I assume CO went allin on the flop there... might consider betting his stack on this flop, or betting half of it so you can 3bet if you want to.

As for the rest of the hand I bet this turn about 1/2-2/3 and try to get to showdown unimproved. As played this is very easy river call

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I think your play is seriously weak. I think you see KJ way more often then you see KK, JJ here.

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I think your play is seriously weak. I think you see KJ way more often then you see KK, JJ here.

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I think he's much more afraid of the straight/flush-possibilities here, but still yes this is weak

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WTF never fold this. Pay him off everytime if he has it.

Move on and don't worry about it.

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WTF never fold this. Pay him off everytime if he has it.

Move on and don't worry about it.

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Agreed. How would you have played top two pair in his situation?

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WTF never fold this. Pay him off everytime if he has it.

Move on and don't worry about it.

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Agreed. How would you have played top two pair in his situation?

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I seriously thought that he had a flush. The last bunch of hands he had been playing dumb suited cards and calling bets to try and catch. I figured that calling was a bad move, but I was obviously not correct in folding.

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I seriously thought that he had a flush. The last bunch of hands he had been playing dumb suited cards and calling bets to try and catch. I figured that calling was a bad move, but I was obviously not correct in folding.

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You can't just give him credit for a flush just because it's 3 to a flush out there... And then when he bets nearly over half the pot you're getting awesome odds to call with even worse hands than sets here.

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I seriously thought that he had a flush. The last bunch of hands he had been playing dumb suited cards and calling bets to try and catch. I figured that calling was a bad move, but I was obviously not correct in folding.

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Don't outthink yourself. Price is too good to fold a set here.

Especially when you check the turn.

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Morrek is correct. Bet about $10 or $15 on the turn &amp; see what happens. After you check the turn, you put yourself in a guessing game on the river. Is he betting because he's got something or because you invited him to take the pot from you.

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You represented absolutely nothing. SB would be correct to block/value bet a wide range of hands on the end, which is exactly what he did. Saying that $15 just seems like too much to call sounds like scared poker.

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I seriously thought that he had a flush. The last bunch of hands he had been playing dumb suited cards and calling bets to try and catch. I figured that calling was a bad move, but I was obviously not correct in folding.

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Don't outthink yourself. Price is too good to fold a set here.

Especially when you check the turn.

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I think one of my worst traits is giving people too much credit.

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I think one of my worst traits is giving people too much credit.

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Lol, it's ok to have a fear of monsters under the bed, but that shouldn't stop you from calling down. Monsters under the bed is what prevents you from reraising.

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Morrek is correct. Bet about $10 or $15 on the turn &amp; see what happens. After you check the turn, you put yourself in a guessing game on the river. Is he betting because he's got something or because you invited him to take the pot from you.

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I know that I should have bet on the turn but I got gunshy.

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You represented absolutely nothing. SB would be correct to block/value bet a wide range of hands on the end, which is exactly what he did. Saying that $15 just seems like too much to call sounds like scared poker.

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In his situation I probably would have done the same thing with how I acted on the turn.

Re: 50NL: Trips on scary board
 

Raise the turn 12-15 like everyone said and check behind the river. You can't just assume he's on a flush draw because of his call. He is just another donk who slowplays two pair on the flop. You need to call river I am sure you will see a weaker king more times than the flush.

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I think I would have reraised the flop here. That's where the weakness begins. What hands does villain have at this point that beat us...make a raise that makes it incorrect for him to draw to the flush. When that scare card comes and he has nothing, you won't see that river bet since he'll think YOU have the flush draw.

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You're not allowed to raise your own bet.

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I'd raise 99 preflop two off the button.