Top Ten Notes to Take
 

I currently play 2/4 and have been able to get by up until now without taking many notes. I think that it is time to start.

I am trying to put together a list of the top ten notes that everyone keeps on their opponents so that I can create a list, memorize it (or keep it close by), and then simply have to put the number in the list rather than writing everything out. Obviously, I don't need to take notes on anything the PT keeps track of.

I have tried to put together a list, but I would be interested in other opinions.

In no particular order
--Will fold overs after limping and being isolated pre-flop
--Will raise/three-bet flop with 1 pair
--Will call down with top pair or better (Yes this still happens at 2/4)
--Flop donk bets means strength (My default is that a donk bet is a weak made hand)
--Will raise turn/river with less than 2 pair
--Will call flop on a ragged board and then fold turn UI
--Will randomly bluff
--Plays draws fast (My default is plays draws slowly)
--Will reraise with less than AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK preflop
--"quick calls" = Draw

Anything else. Would anyone care to put them in order from most important.

Thanks,
SMS

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

Here is a good thread to read on note taking.
Notes

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

-Frequent coldcaller.

-Coldcalls preflop, and folds for one bet on the flop.

Both of these tell me that the player is loose, and probably playing hands that are tactically incorrect.

- Rabid blind defender.

If they defend with any two, then I can assume that they probably don't have anything from the blind until they show some strength.

- Bets/raises/plays draws fast on the turn.

If they do this, one of us is going to get full value when I have a medium strength hand.

- Very tight in the blinds.

Then I open raise whenever they are in the blinds.

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

I found it difficult myself taking notes so I came up with a system to assist. Call it shorthand. Some players have found it useful. I find it very useful because in 1 second I can tell what kind of player he is instead of trying to remember that LP-P, LP-A, LA-P, TA-A and the other 20 abbreviations are.
http://www.texasholdempoker-stats.com/thp_ratings.html

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

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Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

I make a note when a player posts a blind in EP, or posts a dead. I associate both of these with being very loose.

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

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--Will fold overs after limping and being isolated pre-flop
--Will raise/three-bet flop with 1 pair
--Will call down with top pair or better (Yes this still happens at 2/4)
--Flop donk bets means strength (My default is that a donk bet is a weak made hand)
--Will raise turn/river with less than 2 pair
--Will call flop on a ragged board and then fold turn UI
--Will randomly bluff
--Plays draws fast (My default is plays draws slowly)
--Will reraise with less than AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK preflop
--"quick calls" = Draw

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Uh, I do all of these things situationally. Are they bad or just noteworthy?

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 

None of these items are good or bad under situations. They are noteworthy especially if I see them happen repeatedly. I take notes on good play as well as bad. I am just looking to create a list of things that I should be taking notes on.

I would say that most players at 2/4 do very little "situationally". So if they play one one one time they are pretty much going to play that way all the time.

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--Will fold overs after limping and being isolated pre-flop


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How do you know what he folds?

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-Frequent coldcaller.

-Coldcalls preflop, and folds for one bet on the flop.

Both of these tell me that the player is loose, and probably playing hands that are tactically incorrect.

- Rabid blind defender.

If they defend with any two, then I can assume that they probably don't have anything from the blind until they show some strength.

- Bets/raises/plays draws fast on the turn.

If they do this, one of us is going to get full value when I have a medium strength hand.

- Very tight in the blinds.

Then I open raise whenever they are in the blinds.

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Coldcall is one of my PAHUD stats. and I think "folds for one bet on the flop" is too situational to be useful. perhaps it would be more useful to just make a note about the types of hands they cold call with.

and I'm not sure but I think you could program a blind defence stat into your HUD if you so desired.

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pf I look for what they raised ep with, and I always note an openlimp from the hijack or later. If they raise loose from ep, then I can reraise more frequently to isolate. If they openlimp from lp, then I have to respect lp raises as real hands.

ex:
rsd sm pp from mp1
coldcapped KXs
openlimped CO

On the flop, I always look for what players do when they miss or are drawing. Its these two areas that notes are both most consistent, and most useful. Continuation bets with nothing are always useful. I also like to see if they will bet into a crowd (3+ people) last to act when checked to.

ex.
chkd thru flp w mid pr
raised fl drw HU
cont bet w nothing
bet/fold into 4 ppl

default drawing plays on the flop are the places where players both differ greatly from each other, and where players tend to repeat themselves in different hands.

On the river, players tend to define thier own thoughts as to how strong they feel any given hand is. Some people know when to value bet with A hi, others dont.

ex.
chkd thru R w md pr
bet tptk into 4fl brd
didnt raise nuts