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nick schulman has a monster chip leader...i'm guessing he's jeff's son?

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tour...ogs&type=2

stevesbets make it to 10th!!!

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goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo TAKEOVER

He's not related to Barry or Jeff from what little I know.. all I know is he's an insanely good online player, he took down the 700k on stars a few weeks back.

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damn how old is he?
he's like a kid

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....based on the fact that their names are spelled differently?

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These are the kind of 1.5M chip hands that are why Nick will win 276k to 2M, while Alex went home w/ 27k:

Minh Nguyen raises to $90,000 preflop, and Nick Schulman reraises to $285,000. Nguyen moves all in over the top for $418,000 more. Schulman goes into the tank for a minute before deciding to make the call. Schulman has Nguyen covered, but Nguyen is in the lead. Nguyen has 10c-10h and Schulman is in bad shape with 8h-8s. The flop improves Nguyen's lead, when it comes Ac-9s-7s. The turn is a diamond, and looks a bit like a snowman. Could it be? It's an eight. All of a sudden Nguyen goes from a huge favorite to an underdog. He does have some outs however. He can catch a jack or a six for the straight, or a ten for the win. The river is a brick though, the 3h, and Schulman outdraws the veteran professional Nguyen, sending him to the rail in 8th place. Nguyen takes home $172,800 for his efforts.

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omg someone gave someone a bad beat in a tournament on their way to the final table. ALERT THE PRESSES.

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omg someone gave someone a bad beat in a tournament on their way to the final table. ALERT THE PRESSES.

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Seems like decent play anyways!

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These are the kind of 1.5M chip hands that are why Nick will win 276k to 2M, while Alex went home w/ 27k:


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To understand this hand, you'd have to know how Nick has been playing up to this point. He's been making big moves, and been fortunate enough not to run into huge hands. In this situation, he ran into a big hand and was basically pot committed albeit a very tough call. He took a ton of beats earlier on, and was fortunate to suck out in this situation.

It's kind of unfair to pick on him for this hand because he's been playing very aggressively and when you play like that sometimes you have to play a big pot with the worst of it, but that's compensated by the large # of pots you've won without seeing a showdown.

IMO I think Nick is roughly 3 to 2 dog to win the whole thing.

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It's kind of unfair to pick on him for this hand because he's been playing very aggressively and when you play like that sometimes you have to play a big pot with the worst of it, but that's compensated by the large # of pots you've won without seeing a showdown.
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nobody is picking on him, diablo was just showing how you gotta run g00t. also see:


1) the 1.6M coinflip, TT vs AQ, TT holds

2) 33 vs QJ, 33 holds (albeit a smallish pot)

3) guy moves in for 14 bb utg, lyle berman cold calls, and
takeover wakes up w/ AA to bust original guys 88


when people say, wow, that guy is running good, they generally aren't making a statement about that person's skills. why does everyone take offense when you say they got in a few lucky situations?

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....based on the fact that their names are spelled differently?

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didn't notice that sorry for my conjecture

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Nick turned 21 this summer just before the Borgata open. Not bad for his 2nd major live tournament.

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you're right buddy , I misinterpreted it. He has been running v well at the final table, hope that continues today.

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what got him really rolling was when he had KK vs AQ on a board with Queen high agaist a big stack...that is nice.

He played pretty tight as far as I could tell...i he never went after me when i played back at him...in fact i may be the only person to have taken chips from him lol...

He is in great shape against a tough FT and he is gonna do fine.



sheets

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Nick Schulman eliminates Lyle Berman

Nick Schulman sends Allen Cunningham home

Updated Chip Counts

Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Nick Schulman $ 6,200,000
2 Tony Licastro $ 1,050,000
3 Bill Gazes $ 650,000


I think Nick is gonna do ok in this one.

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This one could turn out to be a really key hand.

Date / Time: 2005-11-18 14:14:00

Hand #25 - Nick Schulman has the button in seat 2, and Berman moves all in for $575,000, and Schulman quickly calls. Now Licastro goes into the tank in the big blind, and he studies the situation for several minutes before folding. Berman shows Ah-Jc, but he's dominated by Schulman's Ac-Kd. Berman needs to improve here to stay alive.

The flop comes Qc-6s-2s, and Berman is in trouble, needing to catch a jack or a runner-runner straight to survive. The turn card is a blank (they didn't show it or announce it), and the river card is a 9. Lyle Berman is eliminated in fifth place, earning $345,000.

1. Nick Schulman - $4,200,000 (seat 2)
2. Tony Licastro - $1,300,000 (seat 3)
3. Allen Cunningham - $1,200,000 (seat 5)
4. Bill Gazes - $850,000 (seat 6)

If Licastro was just showboating, nevermind. But, if he was really thinking, I figure there's a decent chance he had a pair, or maybe AQ. If he decides to go all-in with either of those hands, he wins this hand and has something like a 3.2M to 2.3M chip advantage over Nick w/ a couple of guys within striking range at around 1M. Instead, he folds, and Nick takes a commanding lead, far ahead of the other three.

Will be interesting to find out what Licastro had.

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Date / Time: 2005-11-18 15:54:00
Title: Tony Licastro Doubles Through Nick Schulman
Log: Hand #67 - Bill Gazes has the button in seat 6, Schulman raises to $320,000, Licastro moves all in for about $1.3 million, and Schulman asks for a count of Licastro's chips. Schulman calls, showing As-5s, but Licastro has him dominated with Ah-9c.


The flop comes Kh-8c-6h, and Licastro is still in the lead. The turn card is the 10d, and Schulman needs to catch a five to bust Licastro. The river card is the 4d, teasing Schulman before Tony "All-In" Licastro doubles up to about $2,110,000. Nick Schulman is knocked down to $4 million in chips.

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Maybe getting a touch loose with the 1,000,000 calls. I still have faith in him, and I'd rather Locastro have those chips then Gazes.

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Title: Official Chip Counts
Log: Here are the official chip counts from the break:

Nick Schulman - $5,150,000
Tony Licastro - $2,690,000

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Log: The blinds are still at 40,000-$80,000, with a $10,000 ante

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Log:
Hand #86 - Tony Licastro has the button, and he moves all in for $2.68 million.

this one should be over soon, whichever way it goes...

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Hand #89 - Nick Schulman has the button, he limps for $80,000, and Licastro checks his option. The flop comes As-Ks-8d, Licastro checks, Schulman bets $120,000, Licastro raises to $300,000, and Schulman calls. The turn card is the 2s, putting three spades on the board. Schulman moves all in, and Licastro immediately calls. Schulman shows 9s-6s for a flush, while Licastro shows 8h-2d for two pair. Licastro will need to improve here by catching a deuce or an eight to stay alive. The river card is -- the 5s! Tony Licastro is eliminated in second place, earning $1,035,000.

Nick Schulman wins the 2005 WPT World Poker Finals at the Foxwoods Resort & Casino, winning $2,142,000, a Wampum belt (as a trophy), and a $25,500 seat into the WPT World Championship at Bellagio in the spring.


i think we all know he was really playing for the wampum belt.

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you said it

another great spot for takeover.. slam that flush and guy hits 2 pair.

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If he decides to go all-in with either of those hands, he wins this hand and has something like a 3.2M to 2.3M chip advantage over Nick w/ a couple of guys within striking range at around 1M. Instead, he folds, and Nick takes a commanding lead, far ahead of the other three.


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And if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bus.

Why are these what-would-have-been musings so intriguing to you?

Oh, yeah, and CONGRATS NICK!

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If he decides to go all-in with either of those hands, he wins this hand and has something like a 3.2M to 2.3M chip advantage over Nick w/ a couple of guys within striking range at around 1M. Instead, he folds, and Nick takes a commanding lead, far ahead of the other three.


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And if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bus.

Why are these what-would-have-been musings so intriguing to you?

Oh, yeah, and CONGRATS NICK!

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he's just commenting on the rollercoaster nature of these huge poker tournaments that make superstars out of the winners.

oh, and i would have gone with: "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle"

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If he decides to go all-in with either of those hands, he wins this hand and has something like a 3.2M to 2.3M chip advantage over Nick w/ a couple of guys within striking range at around 1M. Instead, he folds, and Nick takes a commanding lead, far ahead of the other three.


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And if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bus.

Why are these what-would-have-been musings so intriguing to you?

Oh, yeah, and CONGRATS NICK!

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Why are they intriguing? Man, tourney poker is one of those things where one card or one good/bad super-close call is often the difference between busting out for $25,000 (or nothing!) and making $2 million!!! How can you not find that interesting? To me, that is pretty much the most interesting part of tourney poker!

Raymer at WSOP against that Kanter guy. Raymer doesn't get sucked out on and he has a solid shot at being repeat WSOP champion. Instead, Raymer is out and Kanter makes a couple mil or whatever. Man, I don't see how you don't find this stuff intriguing!

As for Nick, as a 21yo WPT champion and a successful high-limit cash game player both live and online, I think he is potentially the most marketable person in poker right now (possibly moreso than Raymer/Hachem/etc.).

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If he decides to go all-in with either of those hands, he wins this hand and has something like a 3.2M to 2.3M chip advantage over Nick w/ a couple of guys within striking range at around 1M. Instead, he folds, and Nick takes a commanding lead, far ahead of the other three.


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And if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bus.

Why are these what-would-have-been musings so intriguing to you?

Oh, yeah, and CONGRATS NICK!

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Why are they intriguing? Man, tourney poker is one of those things where one card or one good/bad super-close call is often the difference between busting out for $25,000 (or nothing!) and making $2 million!!! How can you not find that interesting? To me, that is pretty much the most interesting part of tourney poker!

Raymer at WSOP against that Kanter guy. Raymer doesn't get sucked out on and he has a solid shot at being repeat WSOP champion. Instead, Raymer is out and Kanter makes a couple mil or whatever. Man, I don't see how you don't find this stuff intriguing!

As for Nick, as a 21yo WPT champion and a successful high-limit cash game player both live and online, I think he is potentially the most marketable person in poker right now (possibly moreso than Raymer/Hachem/etc.).

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I agree wholeheartedly with all your characterizations. Maybe I just play so many tournaments, that I'm clearly immune to it, and consider the freaky nature of MTTs just par for the course.

I originally read your comment on Nick as "remarkable" rather than "markettable" and though both are quite true, it remains to be seen how agressively Nick will pursue his marketting potential.

To me, the most interesting thing about all of this is that there are scores of kids who, at 21, have access to knowledge and opportunity that I never did at that age--and that was only seven years ago!

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If he decides to go all-in with either of those hands, he wins this hand and has something like a 3.2M to 2.3M chip advantage over Nick w/ a couple of guys within striking range at around 1M. Instead, he folds, and Nick takes a commanding lead, far ahead of the other three.


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And if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bus.

Why are these what-would-have-been musings so intriguing to you?

Oh, yeah, and CONGRATS NICK!

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Why are they intriguing? Man, tourney poker is one of those things where one card or one good/bad super-close call is often the difference between busting out for $25,000 (or nothing!) and making $2 million!!! How can you not find that interesting? To me, that is pretty much the most interesting part of tourney poker!

Raymer at WSOP against that Kanter guy. Raymer doesn't get sucked out on and he has a solid shot at being repeat WSOP champion. Instead, Raymer is out and Kanter makes a couple mil or whatever. Man, I don't see how you don't find this stuff intriguing!

As for Nick, as a 21yo WPT champion and a successful high-limit cash game player both live and online, I think he is potentially the most marketable person in poker right now (possibly moreso than Raymer/Hachem/etc.).

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I agree wholeheartedly with all your characterizations. Maybe I just play so many tournaments, that I'm clearly immune to it, and consider the freaky nature of MTTs just par for the course.


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I don't find it unusual, and I obviously EXPECT that is what will happen in tourneys. I just find that situation to be interesting. One turn of a card is potentially the difference between someone spending the next five years dealing cards and making $30k/year or being a household name and poker superstar.

This fascinates me in all walks of life. We just happen to talk about poker here. However, I find this just as interesting in all walks of life. In entertainment, getting cast on one sitcom vs. another is the difference between being Jennifer Aniston and some random waitress or stripper in LA. One guy liking a song at your showcase can be the difference between being international rock star or a guy with some random job. Here in the Bay Area, it is stunning to see what single events end up propelling one company to be worth billions while another almost identical company never makes it off the ground. I find all this kind of stuff fascinating.


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I originally read your comment on Nick as "remarkable" rather than "markettable" and though both are quite true, it remains to be seen how agressively Nick will pursue his marketting potential.

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I have no idea how good this kid is, but one has to respect that he has been successful across a wide range of games both online and live (NL, limit, tourney, ring, etc). This is much more impressive to me than guys who have some really hot run in one specific area.

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To me, the most interesting thing about all of this is that there are scores of kids who, at 21, have access to knowledge and opportunity that I never did at that age--and that was only seven years ago!

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On the flip side, seven years ago kids had an unprecedented opportunity to make $100M+ if they had the right idea and a lot of luck and good timing in the dot-com boom.

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On the flip side, seven years ago kids had an unprecedented opportunity to make $100M+ if they had the right idea and a lot of luck and good timing in the dot-com boom.

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Yeah but those kids, for the most part, had or needed college degrees, which is a big difference. Also, probably more luck.

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I have no idea how good this kid is, but one has to respect that he has been successful across a wide range of games both online and live (NL, limit, tourney, ring, etc). This is much more impressive to me than guys who have some really hot run in one specific area.

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FWIW, Gigabet has said on this forum that he considers Takeover to be the most tough and difficult player to play against, this being from experience between the two in multiple tournaments and huge HU SNG's. I have no idea how good Takeover is either, but that statement says a lot.

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wow he looked young didn't know he was 21 years old...goddamn he's gotta be the youngest major tourney winner in poker history. i guess it was a matter of time before a 21 year old kid would win a major televised tourney. after this shows, every kid will want to be like him and play poker.

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In terms of "what if" scenarios, there was a big one with 30-something people left...

I was railtarding Steve Jacobs (aka stevesbets, a friend of mine from home) and he had about 250K in chips. He raised from MP with 88, BB calls with A5. The flop came 456 and the BB check, Steve bet about 2/3 of the pot and the BB raised all in... leaving Steve with about 75K if he called and lost. He called after a short think and the turn came A to give the pot to the BB (Abe Gray). The BB in the hand then had a stack of almost 400K. While you can say "that's poker," the stack really should have been Steve's. Anyway, the next hand (or maybe two hands later), Gray doubled up Nick's KK with AQ on a Q66 flop. He should have lost money for sure, but it isn't the type of hand you really want to lose virtually all of your chips with. That's where Nick initially got his big stack and he managed to cruise with that to the win... Without that 5 outer hitting for a loose player, Nick may not have accumulated the chips that later allowed him to abuse Haligon (as far as we could tell on the rail) and the rest of the table on the way to the win.

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In terms of "what if" scenarios, there was a big one with 30-something people left...

I was railtarding Steve Jacobs (aka stevesbets, a friend of mine from home) and he had about 250K in chips. He raised from MP with 88, BB calls with A5. The flop came 456 and the BB check, Steve bet about 2/3 of the pot and the BB raised all in... leaving Steve with about 75K if he called and lost. He called after a short think and the turn came A to give the pot to the BB (Abe Gray). The BB in the hand then had a stack of almost 400K. While you can say "that's poker," the stack really should have been Steve's. Anyway, the next hand (or maybe two hands later), Gray doubled up Nick's KK with AQ on a Q66 flop. He should have lost money for sure, but it isn't the type of hand you really want to lose virtually all of your chips with. That's where Nick initially got his big stack and he managed to cruise with that to the win... Without that 5 outer hitting for a loose player, Nick may not have accumulated the chips that later allowed him to abuse Haligon (as far as we could tell on the rail) and the rest of the table on the way to the win.

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yeah that's certainly interesting...every hand is that important and affects subsequent hands. kinda makes you wonder how perfect you need things to be set up for you to enter the winner's circle.

u went to penn? the penn crew seem to be doing pretty well in vegas

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FWIW, Gigabet has said on this forum that he considers Takeover to be the most tough and difficult player to play against, this being from experience between the two in multiple tournaments and huge HU SNG's. I have no idea how good Takeover is either, but that statement says a lot.

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Can someone explain to me why a Gigabet endorsement is a momenuts occurence?

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In terms of "what if" scenarios, there was a big one with 30-something people left...

I was railtarding Steve Jacobs (aka stevesbets, a friend of mine from home) and he had about 250K in chips. He raised from MP with 88, BB calls with A5. The flop came 456 and the BB check, Steve bet about 2/3 of the pot and the BB raised all in... leaving Steve with about 75K if he called and lost. He called after a short think and the turn came A to give the pot to the BB (Abe Gray). The BB in the hand then had a stack of almost 400K. While you can say "that's poker," the stack really should have been Steve's. Anyway, the next hand (or maybe two hands later), Gray doubled up Nick's KK with AQ on a Q66 flop. He should have lost money for sure, but it isn't the type of hand you really want to lose virtually all of your chips with. That's where Nick initially got his big stack and he managed to cruise with that to the win... Without that 5 outer hitting for a loose player, Nick may not have accumulated the chips that later allowed him to abuse Haligon (as far as we could tell on the rail) and the rest of the table on the way to the win.

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yeah that's certainly interesting...every hand is that important and affects subsequent hands. kinda makes you wonder how perfect you need things to be set up for you to enter the winner's circle.

u went to penn? the penn crew seem to be doing pretty well in vegas

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I didn't go to Penn, I went to lower/middle/high school with Steve.

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FWIW, Gigabet has said on this forum that he considers Takeover to be the most tough and difficult player to play against, this being from experience between the two in multiple tournaments and huge HU SNG's. I have no idea how good Takeover is either, but that statement says a lot.

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Can someone explain to me why a Gigabet endorsement is a momenuts occurence?

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self promotion can get you far in the online community, ala neverwin and zeejustin.

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probably because it seems like gigabet would have a hard timte saying anyone is good.

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Can someone explain to me why a Gigabet endorsement is a momenuts occurence?

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Ask the SNG forum.

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probably because it seems like gigabet would have a hard timte saying anyone is good.

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pretty much

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Also, his girlfriend is really cute.

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vn takeover!

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http://www.cardplayer.com/imgGal/200...118_182_09.jpg
Woowwwwwwwwww

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Right, I'm aware that Gigabet has thoroughly convinced a critical mass of 2+2ers that he is the final frontier in poker, but I'm trying to highlight how absurd that is.

Yes, Gigabet is talented and opinionated, yes Takeoever is one of the best young players around, but using the former's opinion on the latter as validation is, well, ridiculous. Get out of the house a little, folks.

Perhaps gigabet's has a solution to the acid rain problem, too.