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BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-16-2005 01:00 AM

Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
I am trying to get a regular PLO game going at Lucky Chances in Colma/San Francisco. Are there any players here that are interested? If so, go down there and sign up on the board. Or call it in.

What structure should it be? I talked to the manager there and she was clueless about what the structure should be. I was thinking 2/4 blinds with a 80-min/300-max buy-in. This should be a small enough structure to sustain a decent game for quite a while but big enough to make it interesting.

I heard that there used to be a regular game like 2 or 3 years ago, but it dried up. I heard it had 5/10 blinds with a big buyin.

Thoughts?

Bigs

PGarlic 11-16-2005 01:08 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Where do you sign up to show interest?

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-16-2005 01:25 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Sign up on the Big-Games board, there should be a hand written list for Pot Limit Omaha. Ask a floor person if you don't see it. Or call the poker floor and have them sign you up.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-16-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Does anyone think that this game will actually get started?

phage 11-16-2005 07:40 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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Does anyone think that this game will actually get started?

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I think it depends on the buy in. I have always preferred PLO to O/8 (although I am rather pretty terrible in both cases) and would like an alternative to hold'em. If the price is right and I have the option I will definitely play the next time I get to LC.

11-16-2005 08:43 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
I typically play 20-40 there, but would try pot limit omaha if offered

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-16-2005 08:53 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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Does anyone think that this game will actually get started?

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I think it depends on the buy in. I have always preferred PLO to O/8 (although I am rather pretty terrible in both cases) and would like an alternative to hold'em. If the price is right and I have the option I will definitely play the next time I get to LC.

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Sign up on the Big-Games board, there should be a hand written list for Pot Limit Omaha. Ask a floor person if you don't see it. Or call the poker floor and have them sign you up. The game can't get started if no one signs up.

Once there are enough players, we can advocate a smallish capped buyin.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-16-2005 08:55 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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I typically play 20-40 there, but would try pot limit omaha if offered

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I also play the 20/40 hold'em most of the time, but would really like to mix it up a little.

The game can't get started if no one signs up.

Sign up on the Big-Games board, there should be a hand written list for Pot Limit Omaha. Ask a floor person if you don't see it. Or call the poker floor and have them sign you up.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-17-2005 10:12 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Does anyone think that casino management is making a mistake if they don't allow this game to start? I think that they lose a good game that might last forever, just to cash in on the hold'em craze.

I guess they might be too lazy to educate their floor and dealers on how to run PLO. Pot-limit is a bit confusing for most of those new and old dealers, and the players will basically have to police the game themselves (regarding bet sizes).

I really think this is one of those games that can run through the night and make them money during the graveyard shift.

PGarlic 11-17-2005 10:22 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
I'll put my name on tomorow if it's still going.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-18-2005 03:25 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Cool, the more names, the better.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-18-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
There are two names on the board as of this morning, let's keep it up!

sportbettor 11-18-2005 10:47 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
The PLO game that was previously spread at LC was $5/$5 blind PLO with alternating rounds of PLO and PLO/8. The game would change everytime the button passed the dealer. The game was played every Wed night. Dont rememeber what the minimum buyin was but there was no cap (This was well before the abomination that is capped big bet poker hit B+M cardrooms)

For a while there would be 2 games usually with the 2nd game a must move.

What killed the game was the $10/$20 O/8 game that they started to spread on the same night. That took away a large number of the players from the PLO game.

LC is pretty far away from me but I would go and play again if there was a set night when the game would be spread.

I also know some of the other people that used to play in the game and they would probably be willing to play also if there was a set night.

nubs 11-19-2005 02:32 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
I dont see why a pot limit game would need to have a capped buyin, or any game for that matter.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-19-2005 02:36 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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The PLO game that was previously spread at LC was $5/$5 blind PLO with alternating rounds of PLO and PLO/8. The game would change everytime the button passed the dealer. The game was played every Wed night. Dont rememeber what the minimum buyin was but there was no cap (This was well before the abomination that is capped big bet poker hit B+M cardrooms)

For a while there would be 2 games usually with the 2nd game a must move.

What killed the game was the $10/$20 O/8 game that they started to spread on the same night. That took away a large number of the players from the PLO game.

LC is pretty far away from me but I would go and play again if there was a set night when the game would be spread.

I also know some of the other people that used to play in the game and they would probably be willing to play also if there was a set night.

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Thanks for the post. You provided a ton of great info about the previous game. I don't imagine the new game (if it gets started) will be that large. It will probably be a capped buy-in. I don't see management opening a game without a cap, they wouldn't open the game without the cap since it would die so quickly.

Those people who played previously and are interested should call the poker floor and put their names on the list. I think management will get serious about it once there are enough names up there.

If we ever get this game going, I'm probably going to advocate a Wednesday afternoon start time.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-19-2005 02:37 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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I dont see why a pot limit game would need to have a capped buyin, or any game for that matter.

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Management always wants a game to last as long as possible and for big bet games, a cap is the best way to keep the game going.

PGarlic 11-19-2005 07:26 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
I put my name up to make it a whopping total of like 6 names, then it got erased to make room like an hour later. This game is most likely not going to happen. I'm perfectly happy with their regular NL game any way.

bigfishead 11-19-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Actually I believe the old PLO game was spread on Tuesday since thats when they had the Omaha/8 tourn. They have the knowledge within the management and Dealers that have been there 3-4 + yrs.

Players that played in it were mostly from the east bay and SJ that came for the tourn. They were all pretty solid too. Just waiting on 1-2 fish to try it from the tourn.

Capping the Buy-in on PLO could be terrible. I dont see how it could be a decent game at all. PLO is a drawing game, pots are built. It wouldnt take too long and a few larg stacks would have a HUGE advantage in drawing where the re-buyers could never "get even". And with the large amount of draws in givin hands, then missing for a while, I would expect some to give up on quit the game.

Just doesnt seem right to cap PLO. I understand the "sustaining the game" reasons well. Good luck tho! I love PLO and would jump in if I was up there visiting the old stomping grounds.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-22-2005 01:45 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
Stupid Lucky Chances erased all the names. Screw em. Everyone play at Artichoke Joe's.

haakee 11-22-2005 04:32 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
AJ's will never spread some random game that you want them to spread, but I still like them better than LC.

J.A.Sucker 11-22-2005 01:11 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
There's a reason that LC's used to have all of the big games and now has lost them all, save for the NL game which they can't spread at Bay 101. Actually, there's a ton of reasons.

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-27-2005 04:37 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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There's a reason that LC's used to have all of the big games and now has lost them all, save for the NL game which they can't spread at Bay 101. Actually, there's a ton of reasons.

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What are the reasons?

Are you speaking of how they are afraid to spread a game that is requested just to keep cashing in on this small NLHE craze that will die down in a year once the fish realize 50 or 60 bucks here or there ends up costing them $3000+ /year? When are they gonna learn that a small PLO game like this can be a big money maker especially if it is a game that will run through the night?

NotMitch 11-27-2005 08:00 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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Stupid Lucky Chances erased all the names. Screw em. Everyone play at Artichoke Joe's.

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And anyone playing a limit where there is a rake might be interested to know that AJ's got rid of the drop on the button.

LA_Price 11-27-2005 09:19 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
non-capped buyin PLO is a goldmine. The fish go bust very quickly so if you'd like it to survive I'd advise going a with low blind structure or capping the buy-in. Something like a $1/$2 without a capped buyin or 5/5 with a $500 max would probably sustain itself.

Shiva 11-28-2005 11:56 AM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
I would be.. I think your blind structure is fine. Given it is PL you might try for $200 max intially to get more fish in the game

BigFishSmallCardRoom 11-28-2005 05:32 PM

Re: Trying to get a PLO game going at Lucky Chances?
 
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I would be.. I think your blind structure is fine. Given it is PL you might try for $200 max intially to get more fish in the game

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If anyone else wants to try to start the game, I'll sign up. But other than that, I'm sick of talking to the management there about this game.


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