Stars $10 NL 250 players left - pays top 135 - facing reraise with KK
 

$10 NL Tourney on Stars. 250 players left and it pays top 135. Blinds at 100/200 and I have about 8000.

A few hands earlier I raised it to 1200 from LP with 45 suited after a couple of limpers were in and they all folded. This time UTG table chipleader limps again for 200 and I raise it 1200 with pocket K's in MP. I think this is a good bet and might get a loose call from the big stack since he was one of the limpers a few hands earlier when I raised preflop. LP stack who has me barely covered reraises to 3200. What is my move?

Re: Stars $10 NL 250 players left - pays top 135 - facing reraise with KK
 

i'd push. you def. can't fold, and you have enough of your stack in the middle that villain will have good odds to call.

Re: Stars $10 NL 250 players left - pays top 135 - facing reraise with KK
 

It's a push.

You want as much of LP's stack as possible, right?

You don't want to call for close to 40% of your stack and check/fold an A hi flop, right?

Best,

McMelchior (Johan)

Re: Stars $10 NL 250 players left - pays top 135 - facing reraise with KK
 

There is only one hand you are behind and the pot is worth fighting for, so unless you have some sort of specific read PUSH!!!

Re: Stars $10 NL 250 players left - pays top 135 - facing reraise with KK
 

Ask villain if he has AA.

If he says yes, push.
If he says no, push.
If he ignores you, push.

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You are about 100 players away from the bubble, so it is time to start thinking about how you can eke into the money.

Since he is re-raising pre-flop, he probably has AA, so you should just call. If there is an Ace on the flop, check fold, because he probably had AK or AQ, or maybe even a set of Aces. You'd be way behind.

If there isn't an Ace on the flop, just min bet, and if he raises, you can fold. He probably has AA or a set, and you would hate to bust out before you make the money. Just keep folding, stall whenever you can, and you should be able to float your way to a cool $20 or so.

How did it turn out?

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You are about 100 players away from the bubble, so it is time to start thinking about how you can eke into the money.

Since he is re-raising pre-flop, he probably has AA, so you should just call. If there is an Ace on the flop, check fold, because he probably had AK or AQ, or maybe even a set of Aces. You'd be way behind.

If there isn't an Ace on the flop, just min bet, and if he raises, you can fold. He probably has AA or a set, and you would hate to bust out before you make the money. Just keep folding, stall whenever you can, and you should be able to float your way to a cool $20 or so.

How did it turn out?

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I think this is terrible advice. I'll expand on why later.

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chips. middle. asap.

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You are about 100 players away from the bubble, so it is time to start thinking about how you can eke into the money.

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Thats a joke right?

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Since he is re-raising pre-flop, he probably has AA, so you should just call. If there is an Ace on the flop, check fold, because he probably had AK or AQ, or maybe even a set of Aces. You'd be way behind.

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I see so from the preflop raise you determined he has aces, but when an ace comes on the flop it morphs into AK/AQ?

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If there isn't an Ace on the flop, just min bet, and if he raises, you can fold. He probably has AA or a set, and you would hate to bust out before you make the money. Just keep folding, stall whenever you can, and you should be able to float your way to a cool $20 or so.

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I see, this is a joke.

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You are about 100 players away from the bubble, so it is time to start thinking about how you can eke into the money.

Since he is re-raising pre-flop, he probably has AA, so you should just call. If there is an Ace on the flop, check fold, because he probably had AK or AQ, or maybe even a set of Aces. You'd be way behind.

If there isn't an Ace on the flop, just min bet, and if he raises, you can fold. He probably has AA or a set, and you would hate to bust out before you make the money. Just keep folding, stall whenever you can, and you should be able to float your way to a cool $20 or so.

How did it turn out?

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I think this is terrible advice. I'll expand on why later.

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obvious joke

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You are about 100 players away from the bubble, so it is time to start thinking about how you can eke into the money.

Since he is re-raising pre-flop, he probably has AA, so you should just call. If there is an Ace on the flop, check fold, because he probably had AK or AQ, or maybe even a set of Aces. You'd be way behind.

If there isn't an Ace on the flop, just min bet, and if he raises, you can fold. He probably has AA or a set, and you would hate to bust out before you make the money. Just keep folding, stall whenever you can, and you should be able to float your way to a cool $20 or so.

How did it turn out?

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That was some hilarious [censored] [censored]. Please visit OOT if you have more gems like this.

Re: Stars $10 NL 250 players left - pays top 135 - facing reraise with
 

Thanks for the input. I did push and he called with AA and I busted out.

I would do the same thing again because I think there is a good chance he is making that small raise with hands other than AA. Has anyone had success getting a raiser to fold by making this kind of suspicious reraise? I'm just not good enough to fold KK there and if I double up I'm above average with a nice stack.

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No one is good enough to fold KK here.

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Thanks for the input. I did push and he called with AA and I busted out.

I would do the same thing again because I think there is a good chance he is making that small raise with hands other than AA. Has anyone had success getting a raiser to fold by making this kind of suspicious reraise?

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This is a hard question to answer, because it will depend on all sorts of factors. A small raise will get the villain to fold if he is weak-tight, if he is on complete garbage, or has a easily dominated hand. If I raise with AJo in CO+1, and face a re-raise on the button (or worse, a RR and a call from the blinds) I probably dump it if I don't have a read. Not too many people are re-raising with AT in this position. (This may be the weak-tight example I mentioned above.)

That said, for most on-line tournament getting villains to fold after they've made an initial raise is a losing battle. Don't try it.

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No one is terrible enough to fold KK here.

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