HU turn semibluff
Button is unknown, second hand or so. I think this works in my favor, he won't assume I am crazy from the get go. Big blind is button.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 2 handed) Button ($378.12) Hero ($394.20) Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Button posts a blind of $4. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, Button (poster) calls $11. Flop: ($30) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $48</font>, Hero calls $24. Turn: ($126) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $75</font>, Hero calls $331.20 (All-In) </font> |
Re: HU turn semibluff
You trying to see how much he likes his set? Maybe the $400 game is a lot different from the $200, but you either are gonna get an autofold (good) or your worst nightmare (set of 8's or 9's). No way I'm laying down a set without a solid read.
Of course, if villain is a 2+2er, he will immediately curl into the fetal position, cry out for his mother (from the basement) and fold to the dreaded turn check-raise (at least that's what I did last night [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ), so maybe you are on to something here. |
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You do realize we're only two players at the table? I am not looking to fold out a set here...
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I suck at this HU thing, so forgive my noobness. HU, aren't most sane players going to the wall with TPGK or better?
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Which is why you're probably not going to get a big ace to fold either.
You've got a really weak draw and he's shown some confidence in his hand. |
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I am far from a headsup expert.
However, he seems to like his hand..he probably has a decent ace here, and you know he's not putting you on 10 7 or something..he knows the 6 didn't help...so it really comes down to whether or not he'll fold his ace. If his kicker sucks he might...but it seems risky and your draw sucks. |
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I was hoping to fold out AK some % of the time at least. Maybe this is too much to hope for. Sometimes I have the best hand here too, although I agree he's played it pretty strong.
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Sometimes I have the best hand here too, although I agree he's played it pretty strong. [/ QUOTE ] What hand do you beat? J10? That's the only hand I can think of that you'd be ahead of at this point. Like you said, it's 2 handed. You're not going to get a fold from AK here very often. |
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burn, baby, burn. burnin' money.
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I was hoping to fold out AK some % of the time at least. Maybe this is too much to hope for. Sometimes I have the best hand here too, although I agree he's played it pretty strong. [/ QUOTE ] Many times you'll get re-raised PF with AK/AQ. If not, often you'll just get a flat-call on the flop hoping you fire big on the turn. His flop min-raise looks like A with a weak kicker to me looking to slow you down a little. But when you call & he bets the turn you must consider the possibility that he has a decent kicker or maybe even 2pair, possibly turned. Dunno, I think on the 2nd hand you maybe get away with this just about enough to make it worthwhile. |
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If you plan on sticking around and playing with this guy for awhile I like it. Advertising heads-up is rediculously effective. If not, call or fold. You've got an 80% chance of the guy calling (some percentage of the time he's on air).
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Yup. I've pulled this move and many others like it a million times. They've probably cost me about 5K-ish. Good luck, though. (BTW, I have no problem with a turn call.)
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Yup. I've pulled this move and many others like it a million times. They've probably cost me about 5K-ish. Good luck, though. (BTW, I have no problem with a turn call.) [/ QUOTE ] Hm, interesting. Turn call didn't cross my mind at the time (well it did, but I quickly discarded it). How often do you think he is on air here, and how often do you think a typical player will bluff the river (I can't call another river bet right) vs giving up? |
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I think he usually gives up on the river if you call the turn. So you can pretty safely fold the river. And the thing is that if he has a better hand than yours, he will RARELY fold it on the turn. Definitely bad risk/reward ratio for your turn move.
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Yup. I've pulled this move and many others like it a million times. They've probably cost me about 5K-ish. Good luck, though. (BTW, I have no problem with a turn call.) [/ QUOTE ] I dont hate this hand as much as everyone else, his minraise could be weak ace taking control of the hand for a small amount of money, and betting the turn for free showdown. He obviously folds a better mid pair too. I think calling is a little better then raising, but I dont think this is all that brutal. |
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Is folding bad in your opinion?
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I know you're not asking me, but folding to the flop min-raise is not bad, IMO. You're drawing to runners 99% of the time you're min-raised on an ace high flop as the preflop raiser. Of course calling is not bad either. I just know how donkish these guys are. This raise means set SOOOOOOO often.
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Is folding bad in your opinion? [/ QUOTE ] not at all, if you think they have a better hand, and wont fold to aggression, and youre uncertain how to play an improved river, just ditch it. |
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I know you're not asking me, but folding to the flop min-raise is not bad, IMO. You're drawing to runners 99% of the time you're min-raised on an ace high flop as the preflop raiser. Of course calling is not bad either. I just know how donkish these guys are. This raise means set SOOOOOOO often. [/ QUOTE ] is this a joke? it's heads up, I expect a set maybe 1% of the time, not 99%. folding to the flop is another option, too, I thought emil ment turn. |
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[ QUOTE ] I know you're not asking me, but folding to the flop min-raise is not bad, IMO. You're drawing to runners 99% of the time you're min-raised on an ace high flop as the preflop raiser. Of course calling is not bad either. I just know how donkish these guys are. This raise means set SOOOOOOO often. [/ QUOTE ] is this a joke? it's heads up, I expect a set maybe 1% of the time, not 99%. folding to the flop is another option, too, I thought emil ment turn. [/ QUOTE ] I definitely meant the turn. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I know you're not asking me, but folding to the flop min-raise is not bad, IMO. You're drawing to runners 99% of the time you're min-raised on an ace high flop as the preflop raiser. Of course calling is not bad either. I just know how donkish these guys are. This raise means set SOOOOOOO often. [/ QUOTE ] is this a joke? it's heads up, I expect a set maybe 1% of the time, not 99%. folding to the flop is another option, too, I thought emil ment turn. [/ QUOTE ] I definitely meant the turn. [/ QUOTE ] i knew you meant the turn. and no, it's not a joke. let's see what he had. |
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It supports your case. Villain calls with AA.
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