Biggest winner/s at Party Limit Holdem?
 

Can anyone tell me who the biggest winner/s are at the big Party Limit games? I heard somewhere that the biggest winners average around 3 BB/100 - would this be about right?
Thanks!

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i win

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

Brian R

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A few names off the top of my head from 30/60-100/200

Kukavic
Brizganc
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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A few names off the top of my head from 30/60-100/200

Kukavic
Brizganc
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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Thanks Enon. Any of these guys stand out or are they all big winners?

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A few names off the top of my head from 30/60-100/200

Kukavic
Brizganc
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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Thanks Enon. Any of these guys stand out or are they all big winners?

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in terms of win rate and total $ won its Brizganc by a wide margin.

Barron

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Has it gotten tougher since Party split from the skins?

Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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why was this post reported??

And yes, the 30 is tougher than the 20. By far.
Way more sharks, and the 'fish' are LAGs rather than LP's, which are annoying when they catch cards.

One of the most interesting things I've noticed also in the 30 (and even 20 to some extent) is that standard ABC 18/7 TAGs get destroyed. Better pull some more tricks out of your bag.

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Maybe because they want the fish for themselves in the 30-60 so they tell you its bad and tough to win?

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I assume he's doing better than 3 bb/100 then?

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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Kukavic
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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At least two of these are breakeven at best.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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It's kind of similar to the difference between 10/20 6m and 5/10 6m. It's more aggressive and people are slightly better hand readers. That said, I think it's possible to have around similar winrates for both 20/40 and 30/60 once you make the correct adjustments.

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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It makes me laugh that you have 122 posts and waste time starting [censored] like this. Who really cares if his sample of "significant" is suffient to your standards?

Lol (see, i'm laughing...)

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What's the 15/30 like now that they've added 30/60 and 20/40? How does it compare to the "old" 15 and 5/10, 10/20?

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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you are annoying

-DrG

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Kukavic
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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At least two of these are breakeven at best.

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I know GAescape and steveG aren't break even. thats a fact. so your contention is that ramabird is breakeven? (i dont know the first guy)

Barron

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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never in recent memory have i seen such an instance of pot calling ketle black.

Barron

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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You are doing a slighltly better job with the trolling this time, but it won't be too long before you blow up.

Good Luck.

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I assume he's doing better than 3 bb/100 then?

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dont think so, but prob they play well and much at high limits not neccecery over 3bb 1,5-2bb/100 at high limits is very good

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what tricks you think would change a losing TAG to a winning player at the 30/60?

raising pre flop w/ suited connectors, small pairs, Axs???
semi-bluffing more often?
turn or river raiing to "buy the pot" off a tight/weak player?

any of the above? (btw I am a lowly 5/10, 10/20, and 15/30 (occastinallyplayer)
wondering what works at 30/60 in general - thanks,

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I was going to write up a succinct post to spell it all out for you, but then thought that might make it a bit too easy. Maybe somebody else will.

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oo, oo, me me...

play goot.

Barron

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I know that the answer must be the increased use of deception...(I've read that as you move up in limits the use of deception in general
increases).
Just wanted to know a few specifics...

Check raising often (even if you don't have it) probably pisses a lot of players off...

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I know that the answer must be the increased use of deception...(I've read that as you move up in limits the use of deception in general
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Just wanted to know a few specifics...

Check raising often (even if you don't have it) probably pisses a lot of players off...

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I think the answer is more likely just better postflop play. Any stick can sit down at a table and play tight preflop. You can read a book and learn that. The important stuff is never missing a value bet, knowing when to make a thin call, knowing when to bluff, picking off bluffs, knowing when the semibluff is worth it, etc... I think deception is pretty far down on the list of what makes a big difference between one tighty and another.

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finally the dubious title has been lifted from above me and placed appropriately somewhere else.

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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you are a moron. 30K hands at each limit is enough for me to know which is TOUGHER. hell, i could tell 30/60 was going to be a lot tougher after my first few sessions. and judging from your posts you are a 15/30 player who is probably struggling just to breakeven after rakeback, so please, don't lecture me about sample sizes.

ps i don't "stroll around midhigh" either...i post primarily in HUSH and rarely in here because almost all of the games i play are short handed.

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A few names off the top of my head from 30/60-100/200

Kukavic
Brizganc
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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Kukavica is also from Ljubljana and its pretty obvious he and Brizganc have been associated with the same poker group/thinktank (which I have confirmed. You can think of him as DERB toned down a notch both preflop and post (23/13). He's killed the 50 lately, but on about a 125bb slide in the 100.

DERB is DERB

SteveG looks like a small winner in both the 50 and 100.

Ramabird (15/10) plays a ridiculous amount of hands (~34000) so far this month. He looks to be decent winner in the 50. He's on a 200+bb slide in the 100 his last 11k hands.

GAEscape is the tightest of this bunch (13/10). Looks like a small winner and the 50 and breakevenish in the 100 from limited evidence.

Disclaimer: This information is completly from datamining and observation. I don't play this high so take this information for what its worth.

Also, biggest winners in the last two weeks for 50 and 100 (close to all the hands but not all)(purely for entertainment value):

50/100:

1)Kukavica (+$41k)(12k hands)
2)niamin (+25k) (5.5k hands)
3)Subservient (+24k) (8.3k hands)
4)DrDumass (+23k) (8.7k hands)
5)natalia359 (+20k) (9.7k hands)
DERB (+18k) (11.3k hands)

100/200

1)NFLTDWWW (+54k) (6.5k hands)
2)Dam_Dam (+54k) (4.6k hands)
3)nutzinface6 (+47k) (4k hands)
4)djfatsht (+43k) (7.7k hands)
5)setzer575 (+25k) (800 hands)

Let me know if the above is in bad taste and I'll delete it...

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Kukavic
SteveG (2+2)
Ramabird
GAescapee

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At least two of these are breakeven at best.

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I know GAescape and steveG aren't break even. thats a fact. so your contention is that ramabird is breakeven? (i dont know the first guy)

Barron

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Kukavica = Pastir (from Ljubljana) and he is almost certailny a winner.

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i think you guys need to stop worrying about other players and start worrying about how well you are playing.

has the MH limit and NL sections become celebrity sighting forums?

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Who are the biggest winner at 30/60 beside derb ?

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Sorry, don't have 30/60 numbers.

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That lucky bastard Obi One has won a lot in that game.

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Depends on the limits...Some say the 30 game is softer than the 20 and 15.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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never in recent memory have i seen such an instance of pot calling ketle black.

Barron

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Why? Because post count equals experience at poker? Hardly. I'd just never bothered to come to the website on the back of the books until recently, but I'm quite sure I have more poker experience than you, and more than most of the posters on this board.

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Is this true and if so, why do I always here so much bitching about how tough the 30 is?

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coming from someone who has played a large number of hands in both the 20 and the 30, the 30 is far tougher than the 20 and its not close IMO.

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It makes me laugh that you were pretty much exclusively a small stakes poster until recently, then you came here all a-jitter about your first few hands at mid-migh, and now you stroll around MH like you own the place. A "large number" of hands at both limits is about 200k, son. Get back to us when you've played that many.

Lol (see? laughing ...)

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you are a moron. 30K hands at each limit is enough for me to know which is TOUGHER. hell, i could tell 30/60 was going to be a lot tougher after my first few sessions. and judging from your posts you are a 15/30 player who is probably struggling just to breakeven after rakeback, so please, don't lecture me about sample sizes.

ps i don't "stroll around midhigh" either...i post primarily in HUSH and rarely in here because almost all of the games i play are short handed.

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I doubt you even have 30k hands at anything above 5-10, lol.

And no, I don't struggle, particularly at the 15. You'd know how easy it is if you played more MH and less SS.

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I doubt you even have 30k hands at anything above 5-10, lol.

And no, I don't struggle, particularly at the 15. You'd know how easy it is if you played more MH and less SS.

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Seriously, are you 13? Just STFU and do everyone a favor...

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Neat post, __1__. Some good research there.