6-Max : Reraising with JJ preflop
 

This thread really has 2 questions about jacks.

1. Do you ever reraise with JJ preflop at 6-max ?
What conditions do you look for before repopping ?

High PFR from villain ?
Weak raise ?
Stack size ?
Perhaps a read ?
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2. When you call a PF raise (instead of reraising) with JJ, do you mostly consider it a "set or no bet" hand ? Any thoughts on this also appreciated.


Thanks

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I almost always reraise JJ pre-flop from any position

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1) If villain is a maniac I will re-raise. Short stacks get the all-in treatment. Highly read dependent. Against a solid TAG or a rock, it is definitely a set value hand.

2) Set or not bet, unless I flop an overpair in position. Then I will challenge a continuation bet and try to get to a cheap showdown if called.

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2) Set or not bet, unless I flop an overpair in position. Then I will challenge a continuation bet and try to get to a cheap showdown if called.

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Time for another question (which is adressed to everyone):

You call preflop w JJ, flop comes 268r and it's checked to you, do you bet or check behind ? (1/2, 3/4 pot ? full ?)
Fold if C/R'ed ?
Plan if flat called ?

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2) Set or not bet, unless I flop an overpair in position. Then I will challenge a continuation bet and try to get to a cheap showdown if called.

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Time for another question (which is adressed to everyone):

You call preflop w JJ, flop comes 268r and it's checked to you, do you bet or check behind ? (1/2, 3/4 pot ? full ?)
Fold if C/R'ed ?
Plan if flat called ?

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Bet if checked to
If check raised......read dependant
Bet turn again in most cases if flat called

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Against people that are trying to make top pair I'm more likely to call and see what happens. Against people that are trying to make the nuts I'm more likely to reraise. So it comes down to what types of hands they are playing, and how far they will go with them postflop. 76s usually isn't putting in a lot of money postflop against JJ as a dog.

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as usual it all depends...

as a standard i will only rr weak bets (ie min raise type raises) that wont be hu. i normally give them a little over pair value, and almost always bet them when checked to in position as an overpair.

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I rarely just call with jacks. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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I rarely just call with jacks. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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What's an example of a calling situation? Deep stacks out of the blinds against a TAG in MP? I really have trouble playing this hand OOP for anything other than set value.

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I rarely just call with jacks. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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What's an example of a calling situation? Deep stacks out of the blinds against a TAG in MP? I really have trouble playing this hand OOP for anything other than set value.

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only time I guess is when I feel they should be played for set value, which means opponent has to be a real nit, which I just dont encounter shorthanded that much. (where they only raise AA, KK, QQ)

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I rarely just call with jacks. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

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What's an example of a calling situation? Deep stacks out of the blinds against a TAG in MP? I really have trouble playing this hand OOP for anything other than set value.

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only time I guess is when I feel they should be played for set value, which means opponent has to be a real nit, which I just dont encounter shorthanded that much. (where they only raise AA, KK, QQ)

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Thanks. I'm going to get more aggro pre-flop with JJ for a while and see how it suits me.

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Is that bill nye (you avatar) ? if so, that rules

if it's that annoying guy with infomercials... hssckh.

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Is that bill nye (you avatar) ? if so, that rules

if it's that annoying guy with infomercials... hssckh.

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Unfortunately, it is option #2. Don't be alarmed, I'll switch back to A Christams Story for the holidays [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I like to reraise with JJ in 6-max, but less so OOP. Against a maniacal villains or someone getting out of line, I like to put in a hefty reraise preflop. It really helps simplify flop play, especially with position. When I am OOP though, I feel very uncomfortable reraising, say from the blinds, getting called, and then feeling the necessity to fire another bet on a K 8 2 or Q 7 4 flop when I am first to act.

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Money won on jj for me is the same as on aqs and aqo, together. I repop with ak and aq but usually not with jj. I'm gonna start reraising with jj and see how it goes. I don't play jj for set value, whether I'm calling with it or raising with it.

In the MM thread on whether you'd prefer to have aq or jj in position, you'll find some interesting thoughts on how to play jj in position after reraising with it.

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This is about my approach to it as well.

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I generally make the std raise to open from any position and rr a moderate opening raise to isolate and set up a pick up of the pot on the flop. Against a TAG and out of position I will call and then act with care on the flop. If I find myself between two raisers... I lose money.

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Why wouldn't you bet when checked to? There is no reason to think that you don't have the best hand. When checked to I'm betting jj and a lot worse. How much I bet depends upon how much is in the pot at the time; how many opponents there are; and what is in their stacks.

If check raised it really depends upon the opponent and the stack size. Note that folks will check raise an 8 with any kicker here.

If flat called, I'm betting again in most situations. Folks call bets with all kinds of crazy hands.

TWP had a post a while back where his all in on the turn with tt--overpair to board--was called by ak.

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Is that bill nye (you avatar) ? if so, that rules

if it's that annoying guy with infomercials... hssckh.

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it's Matthew Lesko!

he's so lame that he is infinitely cool.

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In the MM thread on whether you'd prefer to have aq or jj in position, you'll find some interesting thoughts on how to play jj in position after reraising with it.

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link?

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In the MM thread on whether you'd prefer to have aq or jj in position, you'll find some interesting thoughts on how to play jj in position after reraising with it.

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link?

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You don't read the mid high forum?

Here it is!

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You don't read the mid high forum?


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Should I be?

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Yeah. Seriously.