Call the river with QQ?
10/20 at the Taj
Full table, don't have real solid reads on people as it was early in my session, except for the few hands UTG+1 has shown, it's all solid. No one has acted stupidly, at least not obviously. UTG+1 calls, 2 limpers call, I raise with QQ in late position, CO cold calls, the BB and UTG+1 calls. Flop is Kxx, two clubs. I have Qc. Checked to me, I bet, CO calls, UTG+1 calls. Turn is rag. Check, I bet, CO raises all in, UTG+1 calls, I call. There is $30 in side pot. River is a low club. UTG+1 bets. I think hard on river about what a mess I got into... |
Re: Call the river with QQ?
...fold. UTG+1 cold called slightly less than two on the turn so at the very least he has a king and you are still losing.
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Re: Call the river with QQ?
why did you call the turn. i would like to hear some reasoning behind this play. not sure if its right or wrong.
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Re: Call the river with QQ?
Turn call is also debatable. I had figured that if I was up against a K, I would have found out on the flop. Since I didn't get raised, I thought I was good.
I put the all in guy on a draw - and I didn't put much merit on his all in raise. I thought he didn't want to just have 5 bucks left after a bet, so why not raise all in. |
Re: Call the river with QQ?
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why did you call the turn. i would like to hear some reasoning behind this play. not sure if its right or wrong. [/ QUOTE ] UTG1 has a flush draw a lot and CO might be desperate going all in with a hand that QQ beats. |
Re: Call the river with QQ? - RESULTS
After thinking hard, I fold on the river. UTG+1 shows TT, CO shows 88. UTG takes down the pot.
With the combination of the K, the clubs, and a very small side pot, I didn't think UTG+1 would bet a weak hand. But I think I borrowed that thinking from tournament strategy. But doesn't it still apply here? Man, was I pissed. |
Re: Call the river with QQ?
Im not saying that calling the turn was the right move;however, if youve concluded that your Queens are ahead by calling the raise on the turn (the 'desperation all-in bet was the right read), I think you should make the call on the river. The pot has over 200 and is laying 10:1. Even if UTG has a flush 8 out of ten times, this call will still be profitable in the long run;therefore, there is not much use folding on the last bet after playing them this far.
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Re: Call the river with QQ?
I'd bite my lip and muck 'em.
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Re: Call the river with QQ?
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I'd bite my lip and muck 'em. [/ QUOTE ] While doing that I'd think if he's dumb enough to try this bluff, I'll eventually get a good chunck of his money anyway. |
Re: Call the river with QQ?
Aren't you getting like 19-1 on a call here? Surely this is a bluff or a pp you're ahead of enought of the time to make this a profitable call.
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Re: Call the river with QQ?
Easy Call on river. Pot is too big to fold to one bet unless you have an excellent read on Villian. I am surprised that so many people say fold here. I am not putting a solid player on a King because it is a weak move just calling with top pair esp. with 2 clubs out there.
Turn play is more debatable... I raise here instead. |
Re: Call the river with QQ?
I probably should have raised the turn.
I really didn't think that UTG+1 would bet a bad hand on the river because of the all in guy. Why bluff for a small side pot? Unless he read the all in guy as having nothing... |
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