Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

Villain is Tek Recka, not sure if he's a 2+2er, but for about the entire last hour (5th hour of the deepstacks, close to the money) we've just been stealing a ton from the table. Do I call all in here? He could have basically any two, and I figured he probably had the same straight after the huge bet, but should I risk all my chips?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t41643)
MP1 (t22776)
MP2 (t86722)
Hero (t86099)
Button (t17320)
SB (t14768)
BB (t22785)
UTG (t13985)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t2400</font>, Hero calls t2400, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t5150) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t3200</font>, Hero calls t3200.

Turn: (t11550) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t76000</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t92350

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. MP2 wins t92350. </font>

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

You kept limping, but he's still showing strength... I don't like it. I give this one up, as you still have a healthy stack. I was at your table for a long time, btw.

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

Yes, I noticed, sorry for stealing all of your blinds. :P

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

yeah that big raise def. shows strength with that board.

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

Why not fold or reraise preflop? I don't play any tournaments this deep but I would fold most likely or reraise.

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

i dont remember playing with him but my note says hes a loose raiser :P

but i still fold

are you still in this thing?

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

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Why not fold or reraise preflop? I don't play any tournaments this deep but I would fold most likely or reraise.

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ditto

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Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

He's definately a loose raiser. Yeah, I'm still in it, 22nd of 67 w/ ~64k... at a table with Exitonly.

Edit: Recently lost ~20k in a hand where I bet w/ AJo, flop came 752, villain bets, I call, turn A bet, raise, call, river 7, I check behind, he had A7... ow.

And I go out, bet all-in into a flopped set.

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

I think you played this hand horribly. Preflop is raise/fold. Flop is raise/fold.

Playing passively against a TAG is generally bad.

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

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Playing passively against a TAG is generally bad.

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I feel like I understand what you're saying here intuitively, but I wonder if you can elaborate on this idea a bit.

My intution is that you can't let a tight aggressive player dictate the size of a pot or how the bets get into a pot. You either don't give him action when you feel he's strong, or you raise and reraise to allow his tightness to come into play and give him a chance to fold when you feel you can push the TAG off his hand. In any case, you don't just call bets, (and here's where I get lost) because you're likely to be behind? or because you get no information about the TAG's hand?

Bleah. I am curious if there's a general principle I'm missing here.

-D

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Playing passively against a TAG is generally bad.

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I feel like I understand what you're saying here intuitively, but I wonder if you can elaborate on this idea a bit.

My intution is that you can't let a tight aggressive player dictate the size of a pot or how the bets get into a pot. You either don't give him action when you feel he's strong, or you raise and reraise to allow his tightness to come into play and give him a chance to fold when you feel you can push the TAG off his hand. In any case, you don't just call bets, (and here's where I get lost) because you're likely to be behind? or because you get no information about the TAG's hand?

Bleah. I am curious if there's a general principle I'm missing here.

-D

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Sorry for not clarifying; I think you understood it on your own, though.

I was talking about the extreme version of TAG that you find often (and probably shoud be yourself) in a tournament--i.e. someone who raises and folds a lot, but calls infrequently. Against these players, you have lots of fold equity, and can easily get away when you're wrecked, so you don't want to be calling down too much.

Re: Last hand before the break (ugh) Deepstack 30-3
 

Noticing the stacks here, I believe that and playerstyle is often more important than the cards.
Personally I don't call a raise in that spot with ATo even in position vs the only one at the table who can hurt me.
It depends how good/bad said player is though.