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A conversation w/ daryn re: being a teacher
[13:23] daryn: i need something new to do in life
[13:23] daryn: what do you think about becoming a teacher [13:23] diablo: man [13:23] diablo: being a teacher [13:23] diablo: and playing poker [13:23] diablo: that would be [censored] THE LIFE [13:23] diablo: benefits [13:24] diablo: 1) you do something good [13:24] diablo: 2) you do something fulfilling [13:24] diablo: 3) you help kids [13:24] diablo: 4) you work w/ lots of hot 20-something chicks [13:24] diablo: 5) you get to bang these teachers [13:24] diablo: 6) you get to bang single moms [13:24] diablo: 7) you get summers off to travel [13:24] diablo: 8 ) you hvae lots of money from poker [13:24] diablo: 9) you are the only teacher w/ that kind of money [13:25] diablo: 10 ) thus coming back to 5 and 6 [13:25] diablo: 11) and making your vacations rule |
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Unfortunately, he won't be working with hot 20-something chicks, assuming he'd be teaching physics/science.
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Unfortunately, he won't be working with hot 20-something chicks, assuming he'd be teaching physics/science. [/ QUOTE ] Teacher's lounge, baby. |
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I am about to student teach in the fall. It's pretty nice job. You only work 175 days a year which is nice. Young teachers are pretty hot from what I have seen. And it's pretty fun work. You dont make much money but if your making a ton playing poker it doesnt matter.
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[ QUOTE ] Unfortunately, he won't be working with hot 20-something chicks, assuming he'd be teaching physics/science. [/ QUOTE ] Teacher's lounge, baby. [/ QUOTE ] I've never seen any hot 20-something teachers at my school in the teacher's lounge. Hopefully, he'll have better luck. |
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[13:23] daryn: i need something new to do in life [13:23] daryn: what do you think about becoming a teacher [13:23] diablo: man [13:23] diablo: being a teacher [13:23] diablo: and playing poker [13:23] diablo: that would be [censored] THE LIFE [13:23] diablo: benefits [13:24] diablo: 1) you do something good [13:24] diablo: 2) you do something fulfilling [13:24] diablo: 3) you help kids [13:24] diablo: 4) you work w/ lots of hot 20-something chicks [13:24] diablo: 5) you get to bang these teachers [13:24] diablo: 6) you get to bang single moms [13:24] diablo: 7) you get summers off to travel [13:24] diablo: 8 ) you hvae lots of money from poker [13:24] diablo: 9) you are the only teacher w/ that kind of money [13:25] diablo: 10 ) thus coming back to 5 and 6 [13:25] diablo: 11) and making your vacations rule [/ QUOTE ] I think you under estimate how much work goes into being a teacher, especially science teacher. plus he cant play poker in the classroom. plus the pay sucks. i think hed be better off just volunteering so he could teach without the commitment and beuracracy(sp). youre getting laid angle is pretty weak. he'd be better off teaching english to japan girls with crooked teeth. |
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i guess it depends what grade, most of my friends became teachers and though all of them got into it for all of the right reasons and continue to be in it for the right reasons they all say the spoiled, bratty or uncontrollable kids sometimes ruin the experience.
teachers are freaks, you are correct with that. |
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[ QUOTE ] [13:23] daryn: i need something new to do in life [13:23] daryn: what do you think about becoming a teacher [13:23] diablo: man [13:23] diablo: being a teacher [13:23] diablo: and playing poker [13:23] diablo: that would be [censored] THE LIFE [13:23] diablo: benefits [13:24] diablo: 1) you do something good [13:24] diablo: 2) you do something fulfilling [13:24] diablo: 3) you help kids [13:24] diablo: 4) you work w/ lots of hot 20-something chicks [13:24] diablo: 5) you get to bang these teachers [13:24] diablo: 6) you get to bang single moms [13:24] diablo: 7) you get summers off to travel [13:24] diablo: 8 ) you hvae lots of money from poker [13:24] diablo: 9) you are the only teacher w/ that kind of money [13:25] diablo: 10 ) thus coming back to 5 and 6 [13:25] diablo: 11) and making your vacations rule [/ QUOTE ] I think you under estimate how much work goes into being a teacher, especially science teacher. plus he cant play poker in the classroom. plus the pay sucks. i think hed be better off just volunteering so he could teach without the commitment and beuracracy(sp). youre getting laid angle is pretty weak. he'd be better off teaching english to japan girls with crooked teeth. [/ QUOTE ] 1) I do not underestimate that. I know many teachers, all of whom work very hard for very little money. 2) Of course the pay sucks. That is why many talented people choose to do things other than teach. Daryn, however, can make as much as in many higher-paid professional jobs that might be much less fulfilling for him by playing some poker on the side. 3) The getting laid thing is just a side benefit for daryn, not the reason he would do this. |
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i bet the amount of a work a teacher puts in depends on a lot on the teacher, and the teacher can put in as little or as much as they want. plus whatever work it is, is flexible hours
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i guess it depends what grade, most of my friends became teachers and though all of them got into it for all of the right reasons and continue to be in it for the right reasons they all say the spoiled, bratty or uncontrollable kids sometimes ruin the experience. teachers are freaks, you are correct with that. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, type of school, location, grade level, all this stuff can contribute to very different teaching experiences. I have friends who have taught younger/older, public/private, etc., and their experiences vary widely. |
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poiled, bratty or uncontrollable kids sometimes ruin the experience. [/ QUOTE ] Sounds about right. If you're not already a jaded prick, you will be after teaching for a couple years. |
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I think you under estimate how much work goes into being a teacher, especially science teacher. plus he cant play poker in the classroom. plus the pay sucks. i think hed be better off just volunteering so he could teach without the commitment and beuracracy(sp). [/ QUOTE ] this is actually correct. all my friends are boring cause all they do is frickin' grade papers and have to wake up early etc. best bet is to be something like a college english professor. my college english professor's were remarkable and yet they put little time into the class and obviously college hours are better than HS and MS hours. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Unfortunately, he won't be working with hot 20-something chicks, assuming he'd be teaching physics/science. [/ QUOTE ] Teacher's lounge, baby. [/ QUOTE ] I've never seen any hot 20-something teachers at my school in the teacher's lounge. Hopefully, he'll have better luck. [/ QUOTE ] I've had a lot of friends who are teachers and a lot of them (and their friends) have been hot, young women. This is based on experience in Texas and California. YMMV elsewhere. I have also met some hot young teachers at bars and stuff. They really like to party. Also, don't forget about the chicks in programs like TFA that will want to bang daryn! |
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Yeah, he probably won't have much time, especially in his first couple of years.
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I am about to student teach in the fall. ... if your making a ton .... [/ QUOTE ] Uh-oh. Lemme guess: public school. |
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[ QUOTE ] I think you under estimate how much work goes into being a teacher, especially science teacher. plus he cant play poker in the classroom. plus the pay sucks. i think hed be better off just volunteering so he could teach without the commitment and beuracracy(sp). [/ QUOTE ] this is actually correct. all my friends are boring cause all they do is frickin' grade papers and have to wake up early etc. best bet is to be something like a college english professor. my college english professor's were remarkable and yet they put little time into the class and obviously college hours are better than HS and MS hours. [/ QUOTE ] Good idea, get some good TAs to do all the work. In this case, it would be important for daryn to check out the ethics policies in place to make sure it is a school where it is ok for him to bang students who are not in his class. |
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i like the professor angle, but that involves getting a phd.. a daunting task
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he is going to be teaching dodgeball and making fat kids run laps. no need for proper spelling.
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The hotness factor will really vary. Make sure to check that out before choosing a school. On the plus side, I'm in university now, and a ton of hot girls I know are going into the education program.
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i like the professor angle, but that involves getting a phd.. a daunting task [/ QUOTE ] Plus you are usually expected to do things besides teach, like make discoveries. |
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i like the college idea way better too cause...HIGH SCHOOL IS BORRRRRINGG!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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i like the professor angle, but that involves getting a phd.. a daunting task [/ QUOTE ] you can be a professor with just a masters, depending on the college. |
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You don't get to pick your schools either, and many teaching systems have you basically with no benefits for a long time and shuffled around to the worst, most dangerous and hopeless schools for a long time, too.
If you could pick your school and stay stuck in it, it would be a lot better than having to work one day or week in one place, one in the next, and spend your first few years in babysitting warehouses where the kids are all hopeless and nobody cares. Especially here in California, where a major, sometimes pretty much only qualification for being a teacher in the past has been the ability to speak Spanish. You aren't necessarily getting a lot of well trained and hopefully passably smart teachers to mingle with, or cute ones. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think you under estimate how much work goes into being a teacher, especially science teacher. plus he cant play poker in the classroom. plus the pay sucks. i think hed be better off just volunteering so he could teach without the commitment and beuracracy(sp). [/ QUOTE ] this is actually correct. all my friends are boring cause all they do is frickin' grade papers and have to wake up early etc. best bet is to be something like a college english professor. my college english professor's were remarkable and yet they put little time into the class and obviously college hours are better than HS and MS hours. [/ QUOTE ] Good idea, get some good TAs to do all the work. In this case, it would be important for daryn to check out the ethics policies in place to make sure it is a school where it is ok for him to bang students who are not in his class. [/ QUOTE ] When I was a TA it was "frowned upon" to date students that were in your class but not stricktly forbidden. |
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[ QUOTE ] i like the professor angle, but that involves getting a phd.. a daunting task [/ QUOTE ] you can be a professor with just a masters, depending on the college. [/ QUOTE ] I think these are far and few between. There are quite a few opportunities to be an instructor at a university without a PhD. I know you CAN be a prof without one, but I only remember seeing one while I was in school (60 year old English prof with no PhD). |
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In the two high schools I've taught at so far in my brief career, I can count the number of hot teachers on the faculty on 1 finger.
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Unfortunately, he won't be working with hot 20-something chicks, assuming he'd be teaching physics/science. [/ QUOTE ] My BC Calc teacher in high school was pretty hot. Not science, but close. |
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I chose this career path.
[ QUOTE ] diablo: 1) you do something good [13:24] diablo: 2) you do something fulfilling [13:24] diablo: 3) you help kids [/ QUOTE ] All three of these points say the same thing. Regardless, a critical positive for taking on the job. Nothing better than to look around you after a good day or year and say, "Damn, this year I've helped hundreds of kids." [ QUOTE ] [13:24] diablo: 4) you work w/ lots of hot 20-something chicks [13:24] diablo: 5) you get to bang these teachers [/ QUOTE ] Um, not quite. There's usually a couple of cute ones per building but chances are they're all married. But if you don't mind banging married women... [ QUOTE ] [13:24] diablo: 6) you get to bang single moms [/ QUOTE ] True. This is way more likely than a hot teacher. Lotsa vibes at parent conferences fly. My friend is now dating his former student's Mom. (She has 5 kids though...eww....). The downside of this is that now you have to deal an awkward situation with the Mom's son or daughter. [ QUOTE ] [13:24] diablo: 7) you get summers off to travel [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely huge. Where else do you get 3 months off? Don't forget winter and spring breaks. [ QUOTE ] [13:24] diablo: 8 ) you hvae lots of money from poker [13:24] diablo: 9) you are the only teacher w/ that kind of money [13:25] diablo: 10 ) thus coming back to 5 and 6 [13:25] diablo: 11) and making your vacations rule [/ QUOTE ] Hallelujah! Two points you missed: 1) The benefits: insurance, retirement, plus, plus... 2) Chicks like teachers. 3) Another poster mentioned that you could work as much as you wanted. Agreed, this is true, especially if you have a slack administration. But, if you have any shred of conscience, you will work your ass off. You will put in 70+ hours a week often during the year. It is a mentally and psychologically-taxing job and expect your poker playing to suffer from September to June. Overall, I recommend it. |
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Being a high school teacher would suck. You have to wake up at an ungodly hour every day, have to deal with bratty kids, and there probably aren't very many hot chicks on the faculty. Being a professor at a college, now that is where it's at...
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That's how I think of it. At high school, the students are there because they have to be, and it often shows. In college, a lot of the kids are excited to be there, and even if they're not, they're trying hard to get good grades. Both beat pre-college schooling, where basically the kids are being warehoused so they don't go around shoplifting all day long.
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i like the professor angle, but that involves getting a phd.. a daunting task [/ QUOTE ] Daunting but rewarding in many ways (even if you never work as a prof afterwords). |
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When I first started teaching, I planned on getting a Master's degree or PH.D. and teaching at least at a community college, but now that I've taught high school for 3 years, I don't know if I want to do that... college seems so much more impersonal, and harder to really get to know the students. Plus in high school, teachers can still play a fairly big role in influencing a student's life, whereas by the time someone gets to college, they usually have a good idea about where their life is headed.
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I teach in a public school and enjoy it a great deal. Most of the positives and negatives have been addressed -- doing something meaningful in life vs. making money boils it down pretty good. Vacation, however, is something of a double edged sword. Summers off (2 months not 3) is great, however, the time of your vactions will always be choosen by someone else and these will coincide with times when many other people are also on vacation. Picking a few off peak days to visit Vegas, Disneyland, whatever is not an option, nor is taking long weekends unless they're national holidays. I'm not complaining, it's still lots of vacation time, just pointing out an often over looked fact.
Hot co-workers? Meh. Maybe in elementary schools. |
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[ QUOTE ] i guess it depends what grade, most of my friends became teachers and though all of them got into it for all of the right reasons and continue to be in it for the right reasons they all say the spoiled, bratty or uncontrollable kids sometimes ruin the experience. teachers are freaks, you are correct with that. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, type of school, location, grade level, all this stuff can contribute to very different teaching experiences. I have friends who have taught younger/older, public/private, etc., and their experiences vary widely. [/ QUOTE ] My father was a teacher for 25 years, my brother teaches in the same school. I think the only thing that has kept me from that path is the fact that I want to do something different. It's not a bad life, although my pop had to have a second job. Poker would substitute nicely. |
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You don't get to pick your schools either, and many teaching systems have you basically with no benefits for a long time and shuffled around to the worst, most dangerous and hopeless schools for a long time, too. If you could pick your school and stay stuck in it, it would be a lot better than having to work one day or week in one place, one in the next, and spend your first few years in babysitting warehouses where the kids are all hopeless and nobody cares. Especially here in California, where a major, sometimes pretty much only qualification for being a teacher in the past has been the ability to speak Spanish. You aren't necessarily getting a lot of well trained and hopefully passably smart teachers to mingle with, or cute ones. [/ QUOTE ] this is massachusetts where people are generally smarter and you have to have a masters degree to teach |
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[ QUOTE ] You don't get to pick your schools either, and many teaching systems have you basically with no benefits for a long time and shuffled around to the worst, most dangerous and hopeless schools for a long time, too. If you could pick your school and stay stuck in it, it would be a lot better than having to work one day or week in one place, one in the next, and spend your first few years in babysitting warehouses where the kids are all hopeless and nobody cares. Especially here in California, where a major, sometimes pretty much only qualification for being a teacher in the past has been the ability to speak Spanish. You aren't necessarily getting a lot of well trained and hopefully passably smart teachers to mingle with, or cute ones. [/ QUOTE ] this is massachusetts where people are generally smarter and you have to have a masters degree to teach [/ QUOTE ] you need a masters degree to teach highschool math? |
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[ QUOTE ] You don't get to pick your schools either, and many teaching systems have you basically with no benefits for a long time and shuffled around to the worst, most dangerous and hopeless schools for a long time, too. If you could pick your school and stay stuck in it, it would be a lot better than having to work one day or week in one place, one in the next, and spend your first few years in babysitting warehouses where the kids are all hopeless and nobody cares. Especially here in California, where a major, sometimes pretty much only qualification for being a teacher in the past has been the ability to speak Spanish. You aren't necessarily getting a lot of well trained and hopefully passably smart teachers to mingle with, or cute ones. [/ QUOTE ] this is massachusetts where people are generally smarter and you have to have a masters degree to teach [/ QUOTE ] which means more time to have fun in college before you hit the real world. Teaching a great profession, and if I had more patience with groups of people, I'd try to get into it. College is the way to go though. THe ones that want to be at class will be, and teh ones who don't will be skipping it. You will also get to bang legal age girls, and be that cool guy they hooked up with. No attachments, no worries |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You don't get to pick your schools either, and many teaching systems have you basically with no benefits for a long time and shuffled around to the worst, most dangerous and hopeless schools for a long time, too. If you could pick your school and stay stuck in it, it would be a lot better than having to work one day or week in one place, one in the next, and spend your first few years in babysitting warehouses where the kids are all hopeless and nobody cares. Especially here in California, where a major, sometimes pretty much only qualification for being a teacher in the past has been the ability to speak Spanish. You aren't necessarily getting a lot of well trained and hopefully passably smart teachers to mingle with, or cute ones. [/ QUOTE ] this is massachusetts where people are generally smarter and you have to have a masters degree to teach [/ QUOTE ] you need a masters degree to teach highschool math? [/ QUOTE ] yes |
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Daryn, you're mistaken. In Massachusetts (I taught at Weymouth and Brookline HS before selling out and joining the financial world) you don't need a masters to start teaching. You need to *start* the process of getting a masters within five years of starting teaching. Thus, you can just start taking classes during your fifth year and not get your masters until your eighth year, I believe.
IMHO, you will not gain the intangible benefits if you don't put time into it. You can do it working from maybe 7am-6pm 5 days a week, 180 days a year. That's not awful, but you can't do it half-assed. PM me if you have specific questions. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that as a first year teaching in Weymouth making 33k/year, I had the highest total salary in the district. And I also think that we graduated from the same college, if you're seriously thinking about this, PM me. |
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