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11-11-2005 06:01 AM

Question for Swedes
 
I don’t get why this country punches so significantly above its weight in poker terms.

Any Swedes (or anyone else) enlighten me here, has poker become huge there? How good is the education system? Or is there something else to it?

And whilst we’re at it, wtf is up with Linkoping? I mean it’s tiny, there’s only about 100k people that live there...

Malachii 11-11-2005 06:04 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
Do we even have any Swedes other than Kongo that post regularly?

Edit: And Emil, duh.

emil3000 11-11-2005 06:06 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
Poker is starting to become really big in Sweden, yes. High prevalence of poker players, and high incidence as well.

Linköping is my city, and I am there because I study. It's one of the major university cities in Sweden, and it happened to feature Erik Sagström, which I think inspired some of the other big names there (Bengt Sonnert etc.).

The other university cities in Sweden also have good poker players.

Kimpan 11-11-2005 06:22 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
I'm a swede... =)

saxhoe 11-11-2005 06:26 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
I've been posting regularly since yesterday =)

11-11-2005 06:32 AM

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Do we even have any Swedes other than Kongo that post regularly?

Edit: And Emil, duh.

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No idea how many post, but Swedes are in general better than any other nationality by quite a long way. For those that play Prima & other 'European' sites you’ll know that many / most of the top players are Swedes. Even the US-centric Party has a high number of good Swedes at all levels. I just find it really bizarre that given the huge numbers involved one country out-performs the rest by such a long way.

emil3000 11-11-2005 06:37 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
The first people that started getting interested in poker were the smart math types and the hustlers. Economy students and the likes. Only now are the casual gamblers really getting interested. WRT education system, I think Sweden has one of the better in the world, and good unis are available to everyone as long as you got good grades or test scores. The welfare system takes care of a lot of the costs, so you don't have mortgages anywhere the size of those in america.

That might be part of the explanation.

emil3000 11-11-2005 06:38 AM

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Do we even have any Swedes other than Kongo that post regularly?

Edit: And Emil, duh.

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Not sure if I qualify as a regular, I just post in short bursts for a week or two mostly, and also I suck.

Hattifnatt 11-11-2005 06:44 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
Im a Swede,

The last two-three years the Poker has exploded here. For example three-four years ago when I was starting Poker a little seriously there was one (1) "known" poker club in sweden ("Kortoxen" in the main city Stockholm where I live/played). Now its like clubs (every club is private and needs memberchip) in every city (or small town) and the Casino that has monopoly on gambling in Sweden has poker since like two years.

kitaristi0 11-11-2005 06:53 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
There was an article in Card Player Europe a while back talking about the poker explosion in Scandinavia but I can't find it right now. Some reasons Swedes kick so much ass are:

1. Just about everyone has an internet connection
2. Generally people are smarter in Sweden than in some other countries
3. If it's the same as in Finland, then university education is free, which makes for even smarter people.
4. As a generalisation, smart people tend to make better poker players than stupid ones.

I'm not Swedish btw, I'm Finnish, but the poker explosion is really starting to hit Finland too now, so the same thing is starting to happen here that's been going on in Sweden for a few years now (WPT just aired it's first episode a month or two ago, and the first poker book written in Finnish has just been published.)

FlyingStart 11-11-2005 07:01 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
What about norwegians? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

In norway we have a high education level aswell, and everyone has access to the internet. Poker has gotten pretty big in norway, but I think not as big as in sweden. I also see alot of good swedes at the tables

emil3000 11-11-2005 07:02 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
Norwegians own high limit HU poker don't they?

FlyingStart 11-11-2005 07:28 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
I also frequent a norwegian pokerforum: pokersiden.no. The posters there mainly suck and likes to post badbeat histories or brag about how they turned their 50$ deposit into 250$ in one session. But there are also some high quality players, and most of them play high stakes limit.
I'm not sure if HU is their speciallity, but I know they play shorthanded

edit: I came across this site http://www.smartgambler.com/index.php?/smart/the_team yesterday and the guy named Lagerbord supposedly busted another high stakes limit player named Bengt for about 20.000$ playing HU a couple of days ago. I guess he can play some HU, hehe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Morrek 11-11-2005 07:55 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
hehe, I'm from Linköping too... my family knows erik sagström aswell [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Not sure why swedish people tend to do better than other countries(generally) but I do know it's definetly not limited to only poker

Komodo 11-11-2005 10:42 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
Commercials for poker sites every 15 min here on every channel. There is no education system except for newspaper culumns and a few magazines.
I dont know why linköping, but university city may be the reason.

Biggest reason of them all is I think the highly developed broadband here. Maybe more than half of the swedes got between 0,5 and 100Mbit.

Komodo 11-11-2005 10:48 AM

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hehe, I'm from Linköping too... my family knows erik sagström aswell [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Not sure why swedish people tend to do better than other countries(generally) but I do know it's definetly not limited to only poker

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Depends on how you define doing better.
Statistics show that the average swede lose about 1k/year playing poker, but of course thats a fact for every other country as well.

11-11-2005 11:02 AM

Re: Question for Swedes
 
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hehe, I'm from Linköping too... my family knows erik sagström aswell [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Not sure why swedish people tend to do better than other countries(generally) but I do know it's definetly not limited to only poker

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Depends on how you define doing better.
Statistics show that the average swede lose about 1k/year playing poker, but of course thats a fact for every other country as well.

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Interesting. Where did you read that? Can you post a link?

AllIn3High 11-11-2005 11:04 AM

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hehe, I'm from Linköping too... my family knows erik sagström aswell [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Not sure why swedish people tend to do better than other countries(generally) but I do know it's definetly not limited to only poker

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Depends on how you define doing better.
Statistics show that the average swede lose about 1k/year playing poker, but of course thats a fact for every other country as well.

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1k SEK? Otherwise you guys must have some big [censored] whales [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


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