Am I getting passive again?
 

On my second maybe third orbit, villian is UTG has been HU between me and him twice, has tried to show his dominance over me.
Everyone else sucks

5 handed
Hero is CO with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

preflop:
UTG calls, hero raises, 1 fold, 2 calls, UTG calls

flop: 8 SB
2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG bets, hero raises, 3 folds, UTG 3bets, hero calls

Turn: 7 BB
7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
utg bets, hero calls

River: 9 BB
3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
utg checks, hero checks

comments on any street would be appreciated. Anybody like a turn raise?

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

serious? fold somewhere

also your pot sizes are all messed up

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

I fold when yet another brick falls on the turn, let villain think I'm weak, and nail him real good later.

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fold somewhere

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Maybe the turn?

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

If you're insisting on catching a chronic bluffer, then this is the way to play this hand. Don't raise the turn.

But I usually like to have more of a read than what you have (3 orbits and twice HU against you) before I start thinking they're bluffmeisters. Did you see him getting frisky with any of the other players? Without that read I'd probably fold the turn here.

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

everyone is willing to give this "manic" the credit for a six, or something better than me? I don't know, he could easily be betting a flush draw or complete garbage and I should make him pay on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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If you're insisting on catching a chronic bluffer,

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it is about more than this

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What do people think my pot equity is after the flop?

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everyone is willing to give this "manic" the credit for a six, or something better than me? I don't know, he could easily be betting a flush draw or complete garbage and I should make him pay on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] When did he become a maniac? I fold the turn.

As an aside, which small town in MN are you from? I grew up in a really small town in the south called Elba. We had 212 people and 3 bars. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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If you're insisting on catching a chronic bluffer,

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it is about more than this

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So you're positive he has a flush draw then?

I thought you were pegging him as a maniac and trying to catch him bluffing. Now you're implying that he's somewhat reasonable but just overplaying a draw. But isn't that why you raised the flop? When he 3-bets you I think it's far more likely that you're against a pocket pair, 2 or 6. And you could even be drawing against the draw (if it has an A).

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

yeah definitely too passive, you should raise the turn and value bet the river

/sarcasm

why did you raise the flop?
why didnt you fold the turn?

Edit(after reading comments): Btw, an ace high flush draw... HAS YOU BEAT. a KhQh flush draw.... HAS YOU BEAT. any ace 6 7 3 2 or PP HAS YOU BEAT.

KJ has such weak showdown value here.... let it go

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

Come on man, This post is kind of hurting. You called down with K high and won. This is obvious becasue your post asks:

"Am I getting passive again?"

YOu are to results orientated. What are you looking for us to say?

Cap the flop, raise the turn and river.

I hope you are not serious? I don't mean to sound harsh but you know what you should have done.

In all honestly, this sounds like tilt. YOu did not give us any reads beside that he outplayed you twice. Just twice. And that got you so mad that you where willing to call down with K high, not even A high.

IMHO you where tilting, called down, won and you were mad that you didnt put a raise in with K high.

STOP TILTING. No need to show someone thatyou are better then them.

Ego is the death of all bankrolls.

Re: Am I getting passive again?
 

I have been accused of playing very passively on the river by many people on this site, but its okay to check, betting for value is good to.

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I have been accused of playing very passively on the river by many people on this site

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betting for value is good to.

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Based on this, I'd accuse you of playing very aggressively on the river. While it's true most of the time people check when they should be, this is not one of those times.

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Id fold on the turn.

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has tried to show his dominance over me.


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You called the three bet and the turn--this is dominated--I fold the turn. If you're not willing to cap the flop or raise the turn, why stay with this hand?

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What do people think my pot equity is after the flop?

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Sometimes this question is alot like asking the same thing when I buy a powerball ticket @ 146,000,000:1 for $300,000,000. Is there pot equity or blinded by hopeless implied odds?

There are so many things that have you beat. He could have been slow playing AKo and 3bet when he missed the flop like you. KJo is just that: a king jackoff suit! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]