($16) ATo from the CO
 

Limper hasn't been terribly aggressive. You've pushed once or twice already. Blinds will be going up to 100/200 a25 in less than 1 minute, if that matters. What do you do with ATo here?

***** Hand History for Game 2958451698 *****
100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 14600492) - 2005/11/02 - 21:55:17 EDT 2004
Table '14600492 1' (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 0
Seat 1: tom90cu (1830)
Seat 2: fastlane40 (1065)
Seat 3: UNK1 (1005)
Seat 4: IdiotVig (1550)
Seat 5: kordothebear (850)
Seat 6: jbird643 (2940)
Seat 7: superstreet8 (1200)
Seat 8: esfitz09 (1290)
Seat 9: BPwayxc (1770)
jbird643 posts small blind (100)
superstreet8 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to IdiotVig [ Th, Ad ]
esfitz09 folds.
BPwayxc folds.
tom90cu folds.
fastlane40 calls (200)
UNK1 folds.
IdiotVig...?

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

With an M of 5, and shortly to decrease further with the antes, I push ALL-IN here. I think limper could have a small pair here, and I'd be happy to accept the coinflop as we need to double up soon. If he's laying a trap waiting for somebody else to raise, well then I'll just have to suck out on him, either way we can't survive much longer and a double up puts us in good shape.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

I'd fold. You have 6 minutes until the BB hits T400, plenty of time to wait for a better spot.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

I think you've gotta push. If you steal, you increase your stack by 1/3. You have to guess limper would've raised with AJ+, TT+ unless you left something out of your read.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

A10 looks like strong hand but will lose a lot to AJ. That is why I prefer the raise with AJ and you should fold this unless you think bad guy has a pockets pair and you will get an ace. I hope this is making sense with you because this is how I play.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
A10 looks like strong hand but will lose a lot to AJ. That is why I prefer the raise with AJ and you should fold this unless you think bad guy has a pockets pair and you will get an ace. I hope this is making sense with you because this is how I play.

[/ QUOTE ]

And how often when you play will you limp with AJ with 5 BB remaining in your stack?

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

I raise 3xBB here. Calling is too weak of a play to make and if you hit an ace on the flop after you called you still will not know no where you stand. Know one has show any real strength yet. If there's still 9 players left at this level in a turbo that means the table is super tight so a raise here most likely would take the pot down right there.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

Fold. No reason to get involved here with a very marginal hand.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
I raise 3xBB here.

[/ QUOTE ]

You'll be left with t900. What will you do if he calls and you whiff the flop?

I think this is clearly push/fold.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
Fold. No reason to get involved here with a very marginal hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the fact that he has <8 BB is plenty reason. And I don't know that ATo is a marginal hand from the CO with 1 limper.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Fold. No reason to get involved here with a very marginal hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the fact that he has <8 BB is plenty reason. And I don't know that ATo is a marginal hand from the CO with 1 limper.

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree on both points. So, I guess there's nothing more to be said.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A10 looks like strong hand but will lose a lot to AJ. That is why I prefer the raise with AJ and you should fold this unless you think bad guy has a pockets pair and you will get an ace. I hope this is making sense with you because this is how I play.

[/ QUOTE ]

And how often when you play will you limp with AJ with 5 BB remaining in your stack?

[/ QUOTE ]

I will not limp the AJ because I put my chips in before the flop.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

Sure there is. What range would limp this hand? I say it's AJ-A2, 88-22, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT.

I like my chances against all these except for AJ. So, if called, pushing puts you in a coin-flip or better generally. If you push and he folds, you pick up 1/3 your stack in dead money. I think the dead money tips the scales.

I'd like to know what range you put him on.

Note - my first reaction was same as yours, but then I thought about his potential limping hands and I now go the other way.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
and you should fold this unless you think bad guy has a pockets pair and you will get an ace.

[/ QUOTE ]

http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/3261/burgundy4hx.jpg

What? I'm sorry, I don't speak Spanish.

*You are now ignoring this user. You will no longer see the body of any of their posts.*

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A10 looks like strong hand but will lose a lot to AJ.

[/ QUOTE ]

And how often when you play will you limp with AJ with 5 BB remaining in your stack?

[/ QUOTE ]

I will not limp the AJ because I put my chips in before the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

All the more reason to push AT after the limp, right?

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
Sure there is. What range would limp this hand? I say it's AJ-A2, 88-22, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT.

I like my chances against all these except for AJ. So, if called, pushing puts you in a coin-flip or better generally. If you push and he folds, you pick up 1/3 your stack in dead money. I think the dead money tips the scales.

I'd like to know what range you put him on.

Note - my first reaction was same as yours, but then I thought about his potential limping hands and I now go the other way.

[/ QUOTE ]

It doesn't matter what *I* would do in villain's position.

OP said limper hasn't been aggressive. So he could very easily be dominating me, and there's still people behind me to act.

I find a better spot. ATo is just too shaky against anything but a weaker A. I'd have to be down below 5BB to go to war here.

Re: ($16) ATo from the CO
 

[ QUOTE ]
*You are now ignoring this user. You will no longer see the body of any of their posts.*

[/ QUOTE ]

Haha, made you look!