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10.3 to 13.8

is that still too low? i've mostly increased it due to limping marginal suited hands after 3-5 limpers ( Q9s, J9s, that kind of stuff ) as well as limping suited aces more as well as trying to steal more with stuff like JTs, K9s in the CO and the CO+1. i think it's been going pretty well, i think i just got lazy and quit trying to steal. either way.

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Keep going. 19 is just around the corner.

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10.3 to 13.8

is that still too low? i've mostly increased it due to limping marginal suited hands after 3-5 limpers ( Q9s, J9s, that kind of stuff ) as well as limping suited aces more as well as trying to steal more with stuff like JTs, K9s in the CO and the CO+1. i think it's been going pretty well, i think i just got lazy and quit trying to steal. either way.

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still too low. after 3-5 limpers you can limp hands like 87o, J9o, etc. limp limp limp when you have the button button button.

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10.3 to 13.8

is that still too low? i've mostly increased it due to limping marginal suited hands after 3-5 limpers ( Q9s, J9s, that kind of stuff ) as well as limping suited aces more as well as trying to steal more with stuff like JTs, K9s in the CO and the CO+1. i think it's been going pretty well, i think i just got lazy and quit trying to steal. either way.

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still too low. after 3-5 limpers you can limp hands like 87o, J9o, etc. limp limp limp when you have the button button button.

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i've never heard of that before but i'll keep it in mind.

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10.3 to 13.8

is that still too low? i've mostly increased it due to limping marginal suited hands after 3-5 limpers ( Q9s, J9s, that kind of stuff ) as well as limping suited aces more as well as trying to steal more with stuff like JTs, K9s in the CO and the CO+1. i think it's been going pretty well, i think i just got lazy and quit trying to steal. either way.

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still too low. after 3-5 limpers you can limp hands like 87o, J9o, etc. limp limp limp when you have the button button button.

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i've never heard of that before but i'll keep it in mind.

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if you are not too confident in your post-flop play, then don't add theses hands as they are likely only marginal winners and will ad more variance to your results. that said, i am sure eventually you will get to the point where you can play many more hands from late position for a profit. keep playing/posting.

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still too low. after 3-5 limpers you can limp hands like 87o, J9o, etc. limp limp limp when you have the button button button.

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im at 19% and i never limp 87o(also my PFR is 15, but i play higher limits and that may be too high)

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10.3 to 13.8

is that still too low? i've mostly increased it due to limping marginal suited hands after 3-5 limpers ( Q9s, J9s, that kind of stuff ) as well as limping suited aces more as well as trying to steal more with stuff like JTs, K9s in the CO and the CO+1. i think it's been going pretty well, i think i just got lazy and quit trying to steal. either way.

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still too low. after 3-5 limpers you can limp hands like 87o, J9o, etc. limp limp limp when you have the button button button.

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i've never heard of that before but i'll keep it in mind.

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if you are not too confident in your post-flop play, then don't add theses hands as they are likely only marginal winners and will ad more variance to your results. that said, i am sure eventually you will get to the point where you can play many more hands from late position for a profit. keep playing/posting.

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i'm pretty confident in my post flop play when i don't raise. i feel i often go too far with A high, trying to win when i should just give up. i've gotten a lot better at removing myself from the situation and realizing i'm evidently againt pairs that i'm not going to push out. also i often question my blind steal play but i think everyone does. thanks for the advice.

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still too low. after 3-5 limpers you can limp hands like 87o, J9o, etc. limp limp limp when you have the button button button.

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im at 19% and i never limp 87o(also my PFR is 15, but i play higher limits and that may be too high)

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There are likeey fewer post-flop mistakes at higher limits (15, etc.), but i think that the mistakes made by the typical 2/4 player can allow such hands to be profitable.

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My vpip depends entirely on the game. Seriously, the only difference between most people with 16 and 18vpip is the avg vpip of their games.

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The lower the limit, the higher your vpip should be.

At 5/10 my vpip is 16.5, pfr at 12.5
At 2/4 my vpip was 18.5 (Probably still too low) and pfr at 12.5

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a "marginal" hands after 3-5 limpers is T8o...

what liimits are you at? to put it in context, my vpip at 2/4 was over 20

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18 to 22! Thanks SS Forum!!!

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Thats still comparitivley low. But if your results fit your style of play and you are consistently winnig, i don't see why you should change it. My only advice would be to be more agressively preflop when opening from the CO/Button, trying stealing more, and that'll probably boost your VPIP.

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a "marginal" hands after 3-5 limpers is T8o...

what liimits are you at? to put it in context, my vpip at 2/4 was over 20

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5/10 on party. i long for the day i see T8o as playable.

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Thats still comparitivley low. But if your results fit your style of play and you are consistently winnig, i don't see why you should change it. My only advice would be to be more agressively preflop when opening from the CO/Button, trying stealing more, and that'll probably boost your VPIP.

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i'm at 4bb/100 over the past 11,000 hands ( ie: i'm running very hot ) and i feel like i am being pretty aggro PF but i'm working on being more aggressive and trying to understand and realize what players i should be aggressive into. i got kinda killed in a session last night because i was at a table that was so donkish that when i raised A7o in the CO, everyone called the majority of the time and then i was left confused.

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on the button? really? you don't think you've ever seen that?

5/10 full i think you're pretty close...

as for your A7o example... it's all about the situation. when you can steal the blinds a decent percentage of the time, your play there is fine. some tables its not. sometimes the right table turns into the wrong table for a play as people adjust.

i promise one day you'll be sitting on the button with T8o on a juicy table and there'll be some crappy limpers and you'll say to yourself: "self, my only edge is position... but that's enough" and you'll click that call button.

then you'll flop top pair, get drawn out on, and swear to never do it again. but that's another story.

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Work on your postflop play more; eventually you'll feel so comfortable that you won't have to worry about what your preflop VPIP is.

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What's your folded BB to steal and folded SB to steal? Those might be good places for you to loosen up more.

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i promise one day you'll be sitting on the button with T8o on a juicy table and there'll be some crappy limpers and you'll say to yourself: "self, my only edge is position... but that's enough" and you'll click that call button.

then you'll flop top pair, get drawn out on, and swear to never do it again. but that's another story.

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Work on your postflop play more; eventually you'll feel so comfortable that you won't have to worry about what your preflop VPIP is.

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Over 30k + hands at PP 2/4 I'm a 17.5/13. I'm beating the game quite well. I don't think I can really find that many more places to play hands. Unless I start playing OOP which I really hate.

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18 to 22! Thanks SS Forum!!!

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Didn't the Small Stakes Hold Em book contribute anything to that? I sometimes start off with a lot of good hands and see my VPIP >25% after 100 hands.

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Didn't the Small Stakes Hold Em book contribute anything to that? I sometimes start off with a lot of good hands and see my VPIP >25% after 100 hands.

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I'm referring to my VP$IP over 100,000 hands - not 100. Anything can happen in 100 hands.

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Didn't the Small Stakes Hold Em book contribute anything to that? I sometimes start off with a lot of good hands and see my VPIP >25% after 100 hands.

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I'm referring to my VP$IP over 100,000 hands - not 100. Anything can happen in 100 hands.

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I understand. My question was referring to the book. I just added in the other.

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Work on your postflop play more; eventually you'll feel so comfortable that you won't have to worry about what your preflop VPIP is.

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Yeah this is extremely true imo.