Standard?
 

I had CO pegged as a LAG. Hand seems pretty straightforward. Then he cr the river.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, folds or reraises?

Re: Standard?
 

Easy raise. If he had AK, he raises PF. You want to get value out of your higher straight if he has the 8, wich he most likely does.

Re: Standard?
 

easy fold to his J9.

Re: Standard?
 

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Easy raise. If he had AK, he raises PF. You want to get value out of your higher straight if he has the 8, wich he most likely does.

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I figured he at least had a King. If he doesn't I don't see how he calls a 3 bet. I also figure there is an outside shot he has AK and there is no way to fold to the cap given he limped pf.

Re: Standard?
 

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easy fold to his J9.

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huh?

Re: Standard?
 

Meh, if his PFR &gt; 20% you will see AK here never.

3-bet and watch him call/cap with any K, two pair, set, or lower straight.

Re: Standard?
 

Well I got lucky and just called because this was the one time this guy decided to mix it up and just limp pf with AKo

I agree though that in general he will call a 3 bet or even cap with a rivered 2 pair more often than he plays AK this way. So I was lucky but weak.

Re: Standard?
 

And when I said never I obviously meant "most of the time"... [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Re: Standard?
 

I dont understand the question here.

-Mike

Re: Standard?
 

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I dont understand the question here.

-Mike

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The question is: against a known lag do you ever give him credit for AK here or do you just go ahead and 3 bet the river?

Re: Standard?
 

A lag raises AK preflop almost always. Plus we have 2 of the KK's. We'll rarely see AK here, sometimes a split, more probably a bluff.

Re: Standard?
 

Never ever ever ever ever. Not only is it unlikely based on hand reading, but it is mathematically unlikely as well. You are missing a ton of value not 3 betting here.

-Mike

Re: Standard?
 

Folds!







No, this is the easiest 3-bet ever...

Re: Standard?
 

I played a hand just like this the other day, but I had KJ. I 3 bet the river just so he'd be hesitant to c/r me in the future lightly, you know, for metagame reasons or whatever. also my mouse was over the 'raise' button and I didnt want to move it all the way over to 'call' I was sure I chopped. nope.