A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

Slow play a set of queens or raise flop in this situation?

Thanks for the comments,
Jonathan

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t3040)
MP1 (t3005)
MP2 (t2620)
Hero (t2310)
CO (t3940)
Button (t3145)
SB (t2280)
BB (t1305)
UTG (t855)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t100.

Flop: (t375) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200.

Turn: (t775) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t900</font>, UTG+1 calls t600.

River: (t2575) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1060</font>, UTG+1 calls t560.

Final Pot: t4695

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

being a nit right now, but a set is when you have 2 in your hand, one on the board.
other than that i can't help much.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

To me a bet of half your stack on the turn isn't all that strong of a reraise and if I'm villain and holding anything that matches the board I might look you up here with a call thinking just that. I would push the turn thinking that I'm most likely ahead and if villain has Q8 or QJ I'm going broke. Regardless, if he wants to see a river card with the possible draws on board he has to pay dearly.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

a set is 3 of a kind, trips. he has a set.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

Most would call it trips, and refer to a set if he held QQ and the flop came QTT.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

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a set is 3 of a kind, trips. he has a set.

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a set is when you hold a pocket pair and the 3rd card comes up on the board

trips is when theres two of the cards on the board and you hold a 3rd in your hand.

very different

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

he had J9s didnt he? that's why your posting. or maybe he had QJ. All in all, I probably play this similar and go broke also.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

http://www.pokertips.org (go to poker glossary and you will find this definition)

Set
Also known as: Trips, Thee of a Kind.

A set means a three of a kind. Generally, people refer to a set when someone has a three of a kind because they have a pocket pair, with a board matching that rank of the pocket pair in hold'em. For example, if I hold 77 and the flop comes J76, I flopped a set of sevens.

noticed he says "generally" people refer to it as a set when they have pocket pair, but that it is defined as trips or 3 of a kind.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

here, "generally", means "always and everyone who says set and means trips just makes it confusing for everyone else"

seriously say "set" on 2+2 and you will always mean pocket pair that hits on the board

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

Preflop, I'd raise 200, since I usually raise 3xBB + BB/limper. This is a tricky flop, but I think I'd raise since it's pretty well disguised. (Due to most people calling with their trips.) It's a pretty safe board, but I prefer to take it down here unless he holds a weak queen or gets too attached to his draw or pocket pair in which case you might get the rest of his chips anyways.

I think 600 would be a good sized raise, but I could see smaller or larger debatable. (Even a push.) If he has Q8 (impossible?) or 88, that sucks but you still have three outs. I don't think you're getting away from this regardless.

Anyways, any read on the villain?

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

I'm okay with that. (but generally means not limited to...) But I have no problem from refraining from calling trips a set if you do not have a pocket pair. sorry your post kind of got hijacked Jonathan.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

I usually raise here. The problem with your call/raise turn line is that it announces to your opponent that you have trips (maybe AA), and the board gives a decent amount of hands in his range a draw.

Edit: Also, on the river, you're basically WA/WB, so I just call.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

Sounds more like a boat to me.

Results
 

I read the opponent as aggressive, which is why
I chose to smooth call the flop. I was confident he
would come out betting the turn as he did.

I could put in a big raise on the flop and probably
drive him out, but against an aggressive player with
this flop, I don't think that is the right line.

Perhaps I could raise more on the turn but in this
case it would not have mattered.

Opponent turned over T9o for the turned straight
and I was out.

Thanks for the responses.

Suerte,
Jonathan

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

LOL

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

Uh, I forgot to mention we were playing best three card hand.

Riiight.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

haven't read....

i'd make it 200 pre-flop. i'd raise the flop. you're going to get all-in against a hand like 99 right now, but if big cards come it will kill your actions. also there's a decent chance he has a gutshot and won't put in another chip if he doesn't hit.

as soon as you call the flop, if he's not dumb he will shut down. the turn bet is an awkard size. i want a bigger raise to deny draws, but unfortunately that pc's us. so i guess your raise is fine, b/c i don't want to push or make an obviously committing bet.

i'd just call the river. we're now behind all Qx's except KQ, we're behind every possible pocket pair except KK. you're behind more often than not, so i don't want to put an extra money in.

Re: Results
 

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I read the opponent as aggressive

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put that in the op pls.

Re: A Hand from last nights Stars $215
 

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To me a bet of half your stack on the turn isn't all that strong of a reraise and if I'm villain and holding anything that matches the board I might look you up here with a call thinking just that

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if villain wants to call with A8/AJ/98/77/99, i'm willing to let him call a ~half-pot raise with 0-6 outs.