Micro 6 Max: 88
 

The only read I have this hand is that the button is slightly tighter than the average micro 6 max player. When he CCed my raise pf, I put him on a decent hand (JT, A8 etc). Everyone else at the table is completely clueless. I folded the turn because I think I have very few clean outs. Comments on all streets are appreciated.



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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero folds.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

Getting 11:1 you can draw for your gutshot here.

And the turn check is fine. You are pretty much never good at this point.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

Maybe I'm a spewy kinda guy but I bet that turn and then I suckout on the river.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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Maybe I'm a spewy kinda guy but I bet that turn and then I suckout on the river.

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Yeah, this is spewy.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

I wouldn't continuation bet that flop against that many opponents. If you check and Button bets, you can probably peel with your set and backdoor outs.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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I wouldn't continuation bet that flop against that many opponents. If you check and Button bets, you can probably peel with your set and backdoor outs.

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w0rd.

Maybe in the CO if Button was still in, but that would be about it.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

I'd call the turn given the odds you're getting for your draws, then muck the river UI. It seems as if BB has an A and is betting what he believes is the best hand, along w/ disallowing any free cards.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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I wouldn't continuation bet that flop against that many opponents. If you check and Button bets, you can probably peel with your set and backdoor outs.

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Yeah, good point. Make that T a 7 and I'm betting it though.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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I wouldn't continuation bet that flop against that many opponents. If you check and Button bets, you can probably peel with your set and backdoor outs.

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This is good advice.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

i wouldn't call a bet if i checked this flop. both our backdoor draws are weak as hell, and we'd only be getting 14:1 best case.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

You only need 14:1 to call with 3 outs. I give Hero ~3 outs, and the implied odds make up for it.

I should amend and say it depends on how many call button's bet (assuming he bets the flop). If he does and everyone calls I think it's a call at that point, closing the action.

Do you like the flop bet?

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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Getting 11:1 you can draw for your gutshot here.


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I think that even if I hit my gutshot, I chop some non-zero percent of the time here. I'm also pretty sure my set outs are very tainted. I'm not sure it's as simple as getting 11:1.

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I wouldn't continuation bet that flop against that many opponents. If you check and Button bets, you can probably peel with your set and backdoor outs.

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I wanted to fold hands like K9 when I bet this flop. Also, I was hoping to get the button. Do you think it's not worth it in this case?

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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You only need 14:1 to call with 3 outs. I give Hero ~3 outs, and the implied odds make up for it.

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we are going to have to spend at least 1.5 big bets to see the river to complete our backdoor draws. take that and the fact that our flush (which will come through more often than the straight) will not be good a majority of time we hit it, and i think the implied odds for those draws are very, very slim, if not negative.


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Do you like the flop bet?

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nah, i check and hope button doesn't bet. with AT on the board and the pot sizeable, way too many hands are calling this flop bet. any ace, any ten, KQ/KJ/QJ, etc.

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I wouldn't continuation bet that flop against that many opponents. If you check and Button bets, you can probably peel with your set and backdoor outs.

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I wanted to fold hands like K9 when I bet this flop. Also, I was hoping to get the button. Do you think it's not worth it in this case?

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You might get K9 or something to fold, but that doesn't help you against an A, a flush draw, a T, or a gutshot to broadway, none of which are going to fold for one more SB.

Absolute position isn't going to help you make any decisions in this hand.

I'd rather have the free card if i can get it, since the value of your hand is going to change a lot on the turn. Is one of your backdoor draws going to get closer? Is another overcard going to fall? Getting to the turn without bloating the pot is better than the minor potential benefits of trying to push out K9 and buy the button.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

You are right about the backdoor draws. 2 of the 3 outs I am giving credit for are the 8's. Consider the implied odds if you happen to hit a set. Our relative position is super sweet. You also have to consider that it is prudent to fold the turn very often here. Most of the time closing the action will only cost .5 BBs instead of 1.5.

Re: Micro 6 Max: 88
 

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Getting 11:1 you can draw for your gutshot here.


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I think that even if I hit my gutshot, I chop some non-zero percent of the time here. I'm also pretty sure my set outs are very tainted. I'm not sure it's as simple as getting 11:1.

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Yeah, good point. I'm giving ourselves 3 outs and I think we need about 13:1 to continue here, given our implied odds.