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ZenMusician 11-02-2005 09:59 PM

Man Checky...Girl Checky...Man Bet...
 
Owing to the deluge of dealer/tipping threads that more
often than not show how retarded people are, I said, Hey,
I'll start a thread about our FAVORITE dealers...

The subject line is one at the top of my list at FW: A cute
little asian lady who has her own unique way of declaring
the table actions - "Man Checky!"

Go nuts...feel free to include notable regulars/brush/floor tales.

-ZEN

11-03-2005 01:21 AM

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I can't remember his name, John maybe?, but there's an older man who deals at the mirage who knows words in several different languages. He always calls me mademoiselle (I probably misspelled that) and is just in general a nice, friendly guy. I always like being at his table.

11-03-2005 12:42 PM

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Played out at soboba this past weekend. Theres a dealer there, think the name is will or willy, bald guy with a mustash. Was am absolute joy to be at the table. He knew the game, kept action going, and was always saying thank you when someone toked, something very few do unless its a pretty big tip. He also introduced himself to all the players that came in and kept conversation going. He was more excited to try and deal the jackpot than the players were.

dopp16 11-03-2005 12:55 PM

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jimmy at the taj is always funny

11-03-2005 02:17 PM

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I can't remember his name, John maybe?, but there's an older man who deals at the mirage who knows words in several different languages. He always calls me mademoiselle (I probably misspelled that) and is just in general a nice, friendly guy. I always like being at his table.

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I've played a total of 2 hours at the Mirage in my lifetime and I can say that this guy was my favourite dealer. He was constantly cracking out the corny jokes, also.

NotMitch 11-03-2005 03:32 PM

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I like the guy at Foxwoods who always says "Strong Bet!"

coffeecrazy1 11-03-2005 03:38 PM

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I used to play in this cardroom where the dealer was this huge guy named Ray(about 6'10"). He would always bust on the players, but my favorite of his lines, which I still use:

(Regarding a winning hand, especially a suckout)"Well, it was a good hand...you looked good playing it, too." Bust this one out next time you're a third party(uninvolved) in a major suckout...

Zaphrous 11-03-2005 03:43 PM

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Last time in a BM had a dealer that was great. His best line was "Only 7 to the turn"

The game was a little loose.

ZenMusician 11-03-2005 05:07 PM

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Another great FW dealer (John I think?):

His favorite lines are: "Unbelievable!" usually when noting
heavy action, like 100 times an orbit, and "How do you like me now?"
when not completing obvious draws on the turn and river deal.

You may run into "Sok" as well...he said he was from Vietnam and
someone joked and asked him if he spoke French. He quickly replied
"Oui!" We said "Bonjour" and cracked up everytime he dealt.

I miss the 'Woods...it's been too long

-ZEN

SpaceAce 11-03-2005 09:55 PM

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My favorite dealer is, and probably always will be, Bubbles from the Excalibur. I always had a great time when he was dealing. He kept the game moving and was really pleasant to have in the box. He could talk Motown music and Cleveland Browns with me and never miss a beat with the cards. The game was always [/i]smooth[/i] when Bubbles was dealing. Bubbles was one of the main reasons I played so much low limit poker at the Excalibur. Unfortunately, a stroke took him out of the game earlier this year and I miss him sorely.

I guess that's not really a story but I saw a couple of other "favorite dealer" posts so I went with it.

Edit: Well, this might qualify as falling under the orignal poster's premise: Bubbles has probably dealt a zillion hands to me since I started playing at the Excalibur and never - not once - have I ever seen him make a snide comment or a sarcastic facial expression or anything along those lines when getting stiffed or mistreated. A total class act in the time I've known him.

SpaceAce

Fishwhenican 11-04-2005 03:12 PM

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Hey SpaceAce,
Is bubbles still out???
I was there in May and he had just come back to work then. I was there the night he came back and there was a steady stream of people coming up to him telling him how glad they were to see him back. I went up to him after his time at my table and shook his hand and told him I was glad to see him back and there were a lot of people who had been thinking about him and he really appreciated that! A real nice guy and a class act. He seemed to be really glad to be back although he wasn't 100% yet.

I haven't been back out there since then so something may have changed but he was definitly back in May.

Randy_Refeld 11-04-2005 04:54 PM

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This thread clarifies the difference between casual palyers and "serious" players. In the very smallest games the players liek the dealers to be entertaining. As you move up in limits the players find the dealer's banter and attempts at soliciting tokes to be intrusive.

Bubbles is a really great guy; he is also on my list of not so good dealers. For the $2-$6 that is normal at Excaliber he deals just fine. Around 2000 there was a 10-20 game there and when he game into the box he irritated the players by doign his same act. Another player finaly told him "just shut the f*** up and deal." As you move up in limits dealing accurate, mistake free poker becomes far more important than "being friendly." The other problem with being overly friendly is that when the dealer is chatting or whatever with one player it can give the appearance to someone thinking about sitting down that the dealer is friends with one of the players and can scare off a potential player.

flafishy 11-04-2005 05:09 PM

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Yeah, I like my dealers efficient, courteous and quiet. Declare the action, say a pleasant thank-you for a toke but otherwise be invisible.

Randy_Refeld 11-04-2005 05:15 PM

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Yeah, I like my dealers efficient, courteous and quiet. Declare the action, say a pleasant thank-you for a toke but otherwise be invisible.

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This is the "correct" procedure. Dealers have foudn in certain games tehy make more money if they talke about football or whatever is on the TV.

ZenMusician 11-04-2005 11:32 PM

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This thread clarifies the difference between casual palyers and "serious" players.

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This statement is unfair. Not only is this not "the difference" between
casual and serious players, it implies insult to LLHE/SS players. If you
play 50/100 for your meals and child-support, fine; I support your
right to a sterile (boring) serious job. If I want to "seriously" play in a
low limit game with jovial drunks handing out money then, yeah, I
like a dealer who contributes to that atmosphere.

I always enjoy your informative and intelligent posts Randy, but
this post has an air of arrogance whether intended or not. I would
venture to say that the overwhelming majority of posters here would
fall short of the high-stakes levels and might be insulted that you
feel they do not take their hobby, second-job, passion or even full-time
job "seriously" simply because they aim to keep their "customers" happy
and gambling.

Now, if anyone has anymore un-serious stories...

-ZEN

Randy_Refeld 11-05-2005 12:17 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
If I want to "seriously" play in a
low limit game with jovial drunks handing out money then, yeah, I
like a dealer who contributes to that atmosphere.

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I have seen quite a few fun games turn ugly when the "happy drunk's" flush card comes back beascue the dealer wasn't paying attention to how many players were in the pot and burned and turned too quickly. Everyone that sutdies teh game understands that happens and is part of the game, but teh plyer that was happy to lose money is now upset that he "got screwed." I feel that low limit palyers are at least as entitles to an accurately dealt game as high limit players and dealers make too many mistakes when they talk in the box. The very best dealers will acknowledge a joke etc while shuffling the cards, but once they pitch a card they are serious and paying attention.

Someone I worked for years ago told me about a dealer that dealt at the Horseshoe. She was known for being chatty and making mistakes in the box. Then during the WSOP she dealt flawlessly to players that weren't tipping her in a high limit game. She then went back to small games and made mistakes for the palyers that actually pay for her dealing.

There is nothing wrong with the dealer contributing to a fun atmosphere as long as they don't make mistakes AND don't comment on the game (violating 1 player to a hand). Comments like "look out squeaky is in" or "we've got a big pot here" draw attention to certain aspects fo the game that it is the player's responsibility to watch.

Mason used to have a really good essay on this site about "Talking Dealers." I think it shoudl be required reading for every new dealer entering this industry.

ZenMusician 11-05-2005 01:35 AM

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There is nothing wrong with the dealer contributing to a fun atmosphere as long as they don't make mistakes AND don't comment on the game

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Paramount. There is a difference between a friendly
professional and a silly ass. Nice post bro.

-ZEN

Howard Burroughs 11-05-2005 05:01 AM

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"he is also on my list of not so good dealers."


Yea, and he's on my list of Best F#@&!%$ Dealers Who ever Walked the Planet Earth. #1 in my book.


I've played from $2-4 to $80-160 and I'll take the Bubble man in my game any day.



I'm also a big fan of Gates at Wynn and Jimmy at the Orleans. YMMV.


Best Wishes

Howard

SpaceAce 11-05-2005 05:38 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Hey SpaceAce,
Is bubbles still out???
I was there in May and he had just come back to work then. I was there the night he came back and there was a steady stream of people coming up to him telling him how glad they were to see him back. I went up to him after his time at my table and shook his hand and told him I was glad to see him back and there were a lot of people who had been thinking about him and he really appreciated that! A real nice guy and a class act. He seemed to be really glad to be back although he wasn't 100% yet.

I haven't been back out there since then so something may have changed but he was definitly back in May.

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Bubbles came back for a while but his hnd was hurting him. To the best of my knowledge, he is gone for good.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce 11-05-2005 05:40 AM

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As you move up in limits dealing accurate, mistake free poker becomes far more important than "being friendly."

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Please list for me the dealing mistakes you've seen Bubbles make besides, apparently, being too nice. He's dealt thousands of hands to me and I don't think he's ever exposed one of my cards, screwed up the action or lost his place in the game. Some [censored] telling somebody to "shut the [censored] up and deal" doesn't reflect poorly on the dealer; it reflects poorly on the prick who said it.

SpaceAce

Randy_Refeld 11-05-2005 01:57 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
As you move up in limits dealing accurate, mistake free poker becomes far more important than "being friendly."

[/ QUOTE ]

Please list for me the dealing mistakes you've seen Bubbles make besides, apparently, being too nice. He's dealt thousands of hands to me and I don't think he's ever exposed one of my cards, screwed up the action or lost his place in the game. Some [censored] telling somebody to "shut the [censored] up and deal" doesn't reflect poorly on the dealer; it reflects poorly on the prick who said it.

SpaceAce

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When dealing a higher limit game the dealer can become a distraction. Bubbles is a great guy. When a dealer is talking in the box when the players don't want him to THAT is a mistake. They may have 10-20 and up there now, back then they didn't. When players that don't normally play in a room (but they play higher limits) they expect the dealer to concentrate on dealing the game. Bubbles is techincally sound excpet he misses the part about avoiding extraneous conversation in the box.

Have you ever been to a doctor or dentist and they are having a conversation with the nurse or assistnat while your blood pressure etc is being taken? They are professionals and know what they are doing, but it gives the appearance of considering what they are doing right now as being unimportant. When the dealer is busy making the hotel guests less intimidated (which is fine or even encouraged in a smaller game) they are giving the appearance of not following the action and paying attention to the action on the table.

I wish Mason still had his essay on talking dealers on here, it relly is the best work I have seen on this issue.

edit to add: While there is never a reason to swear at the dealer anytime the dealer has to be told to be quiet that is a failure on both the part of the dealer and the management of the room. In defense of the Excaliber they do (or did) have a sign outside the room advising that they spread kitchen table poker (I don't know what the opposite of this is, serios poker, casino poker?) I always liked that sign for getting hotel guests into games, but maybe there mistake was agreeing to spread a 10-20 game (this was back when 10-20 was a somewhat serious limit).

Randy_Refeld 11-05-2005 02:22 PM

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Yea, and he's on my list of Best F#@&!%$ Dealers Who ever Walked the Planet Earth. #1 in my book.


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I have played at Excaliber less than 10 times in my life and none since 2001, so I will defer to you on this. Bubbles has dealt to me maybe 3 times; the main thing I remeber about him is that he talks the entire time. I have had two really bad experiences there (but these were many years ago and I am sure the offenders are no longer there). THe first one was back when they played 11 handed there, thas was a coupel playing their hand together (I had no complaint about more than one player per hand), I did have a problem with them both sitting at the table forcing us to sit 12 handed and being able to sit comfortably at the table, I complained to the floor and the flor blew me off and did nothing. ANother problem I has a lady friend with me and she was playing. On the river she bet and the dealer said something along the lines of "looks like she made the flush" the picks up the pot and asks the dealer to not comment on the hands and he says "we do that all the time" so she complain to the floro and the floor says "you may be more comfortable at the Mirage." For the record Bubbles was not involved in either of these, but what is someone to think when another dealer comes in and talks non-stop in this room? That is the main reason I rarely palyed there (I only played there when I had to be down there for somethign or someoen was visiting form out of town that wanted to play poker in a very small game).


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