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11-02-2005 09:22 PM

Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
Max rake $3 per pot X 80 hands an hour is $240 collectively removed from 6 players per hour. $3 removed from a $60 pot, 5%. No way your edge can exceed 5% indefinitely. It is a fin joke. If you play these games at these limits all your $ will get siphoned away. PARTY POKER specializes in these games. Dont get taken.

TheGame1020 11-02-2005 09:30 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
You're a [censored] moron.

UATrewqaz 11-02-2005 09:30 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
When the 6 max .5/1 tables at PP hit I remember everyone wondering, can you beat the rake?

Apparently the play is SOOOOO terrible that people actually manage decent win rates at .5/1 6 max PP... however you are right, the rake at that level is horrendous.

The microlimit forum or short handed forum would let you know more.

Mike Cuneo 11-02-2005 09:36 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
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You're a [censored] moron.

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11-02-2005 09:41 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
It is 95% of the posters on these forums that are the morons. Anytime someone says anything that is negative it automatically refuted by a bunch of idiots. At least one person so far agrees with me.

Arnfinn Madsen 11-02-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
LOL, my edge at a average low limit 6max-table is way above the rake.

Let's say average pot is 4BB and average rake is 5%. My share of that rake is thus appx. 0.03BB/hand. That makes rake appx. 3BB/100. A prerake winrate like this is relatively easy to achieve.

Arnfinn Madsen 11-02-2005 09:56 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
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It is 95% of the posters on these forums that are the morons. Anytime someone says anything that is negative it automatically refuted by a bunch of idiots. At least one person so far agrees with me.

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Your statement shows that you do not understand much in poker. That means, that a table in which you think you play perfect, you gain a prerake winrate of 2BB/100, making you a loser; while a very good player would have a prerae winrate of 5BB/100, making him a winner. I refute statements like yours, as a matter of help to newbies, one becomes really good in poker when one crosses mental barriers blocking you from getting "unsustainable" winrates.

11-02-2005 10:00 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
Your calculation is wrong.

Arnfinn Madsen 11-02-2005 10:02 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
Okay, I will show with numbers:

5/10
Average pot $40
Average rake pr hand (5%): $2
My share of the rake pr hand: appx. $0.3
My share of the rake pr 100 hands: appx $30
My share of the rake pr 100 hands: appx 3BBs

My calculation was correct.

UATrewqaz 11-02-2005 10:11 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
There is plenty of money to be made at .5/1 full, and most players would advise you to become a solid winner at full before moving to 6 max (most strategy books are geared towards full).

11-02-2005 10:26 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
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You're a [censored] moron.

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I see you are capable of brilliant statements.

TheGame1020 11-02-2005 10:30 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
I see you can't even assume a real identity and pose as overrated jewish comedians.

TheGame1020 11-02-2005 10:32 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
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It is 95% of the posters on these forums that are the morons. Anytime someone says anything that is negative it automatically refuted by a bunch of idiots. At least one person so far agrees with me.

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You have already been proven wrong. Do you see why? Seriously dude if you post BS like this you should expect to get flamed. You know very little about poker.

Arnfinn Madsen 11-02-2005 10:35 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
Just an analogy for you, so that you get this (and understand some of the flaming). Your post is like someone with a PB of 12 secs. at 100m coming to a board of runners, telling them that running quicker than 11 seconds is impossible.

11-02-2005 10:41 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
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I see you can't even assume a real identity and pose as overrated jewish comedians.

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Say all you want about me, but overratted!?! BTW, Jewish? Is that a hint of anti-semetism I smell there?

11-02-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
Okay, you're right. Better than 3BB per 100 hands is achievable against bad players and beating low limit 6 max games is possible. I dont really understand winrates and never thought about calculationg how much many BB you can expect to win per 100 hands. I do play well though, and do win. The rake is outrageous though. Imagine how much more you could win if it were lower.

Arnfinn Madsen 11-02-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
You can minimize it though, what level do you play?

11-02-2005 11:19 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
Mostly 10/20 and 3/6NL games, hold'em.

Arnfinn Madsen 11-02-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
Okay, if you deposit at TigerGaming you are getting something like 83% rakeback for quite many hands.

11-02-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
What is tiger gaming?

Arnfinn Madsen 11-03-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
tigergaming.com

MyTurn2Raise 11-03-2005 07:17 AM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
my only reply is that with bonuses and rakeback, I get more back from Absolute each month than I put in for rake at 6max

12AX7 11-03-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
Could you explain your avatar? I can't quite read it clearly on this moniter. But it looks hilarious.

Adam22 11-03-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go bro
 
get rakeback = problem more than solved

BarronVangorToth 11-03-2005 11:41 PM

Re: Playing low limit 6 person max games is a guaranteed way to go broke.
 
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my only reply is that with bonuses and rakeback, I get more back from Absolute each month than I put in for rake at 6max

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A bit of a hijack, but since you obviously track your results, with the games at Party Poker being, in my opinion, sooooooooooooooooo much juicier, wouldn't you make more there, forfeiting the rake/bonuses at Absolute?

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com


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