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11-02-2005 08:57 PM

PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
Villain has been pretty tight throughout. Pay scale is as follows: 1st: $1000 2nd: $650 3rd: $450. What's my play?

PokerStars (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Table '14413891 2' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: crookedtoe (133504 in chips)
Seat 4: Imsortabig (51216 in chips)
Seat 5: cueys (74780 in chips)


Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of 2000.
Button calls, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets 8000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises 28000 to 36000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button Folds </font>, Hero ?

betgo 11-02-2005 09:02 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
If villain has KJ, you are beaten. I think this would be hard to fold the straight heads up in the blinds with 2 2-flushes on the board.

11-02-2005 09:03 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
you didn't say the buttons action....
but I'd fold regardless. if the button is in, hope he gets knocked out. If it weren't the last three people, I wouldn't have bet the turn either.

11-02-2005 09:07 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
Added button's action. Also, up until this hand I had not seen the villain raise once.

betgo 11-02-2005 09:08 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
you didn't say the buttons action....
but I'd fold regardless. if the button is in, hope he gets knocked out. If it weren't the last three people, I wouldn't have bet the turn either.

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I don't see this at all. You are the shortest stack, so you can't fold to move up.

Obviously button folded preflop.

11-02-2005 09:31 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
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Obviously button folded preflop.

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Flop: A, T, 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.

11-02-2005 09:33 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Added button's action. Also, up until this hand I had not seen the villain raise once.

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ok, that last little tid bit makes me want to fold even more. I'm interested in how this, and the tourney ended up. I love PLO, but have never played a tournament of it.

ansky451 11-02-2005 09:48 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
Even shortstacked and 3 handed, I'd hate to get stacked with the 2nd nuts with no redraw facing a big reraise. I'd probably fold.

mlagoo 11-02-2005 10:14 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
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Even shortstacked and 3 handed, I'd hate to get stacked with the 2nd nuts with no redraw facing a big reraise. I'd probably fold.

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am i crazy or is this a three flush board? so we arent really close to the second nuts =/

ansky451 11-02-2005 10:29 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
You are crazy, read the board again.

11-02-2005 11:14 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
Well I see the majority say fold, I wish you all were playing my hand. I talked myself into the call "I have two of the jacks", and he had KJ. Being somewhat weaker in Omaha, I am wondering how you all get off this hand. All advice is appreciated.

mlagoo 11-02-2005 11:21 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
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You are crazy, read the board again.

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maybe this is why im so weak tight [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

HamJam 11-02-2005 11:39 PM

Re: PL Omaha $20 Final Table ?
 
One reason is your read. You say this guy is a rock, meaning this reraise means a real hand. So not a bluff. This does not necessarily mean he has the KJ, but it's certainly a very good chance. Second, if you look at your hand, you have no redraws. If he has KJ you are dead to it. The other possibilities are, if he needs a hand to raise with as you indicated, a set or a very large draw, with a set being unlikely unless it's precisely QQ as he checked the flop. If he has a very large draw, it is probably 2 pair + flush draw which has many outs against you. However it's more likely he plays these passively looking to hit the river.

It's not like it's a bad call, just pretty marginal at best given your read. I might call too in the situation.


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