Probably boring and standard hand
 

Sorry if this hand is not interesting. Im a no limit n00b so I still question some common situations.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($610)
Hero ($1039.65)
Button ($110)
SB ($783.10)
BB ($724.22)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Kc, Ad. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $24.

Villian has been openning quite a bit but usually for less than this. Is calling or reraising best here? If I should reraise, how much?

Flop: ($93) Tc, 3d, Kd <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $55</font>, Hero calls $55, BB folds.

Turn: ($203) Ts <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $100</font>, Hero calls $100.

River: ($403) 7c <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $275</font>, Hero calls $275.

Final Pot: $953

I'm assuming this calldown is standard? By the river I didnt feel like I was winning very often but thought chopping was a definate possibility.

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NLSoldier

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Sorry if this hand is not interesting. Im a no limit n00b so I still question some common situations.


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Ah, sweet irony.

I think the call pre-flop is fine. On the flop, I'd raise and fold if he 3-bets, check the turn, overbet river to represent missed flush/OESD.

Kirk

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at which point in the hand do you think you are ahead?
... behind?


raise somewhere to see whats up. flop is the cheapest, but raising the turn sure is nasty to AK, AA.

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consider reraising pre.
the rest looks good... only thing i can do different post is possibly fold the river... possibly.... calling there is, however, pretty standard.

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flawless and others,

Does the turn min-raise to induce a river check work at these limits? The turn seems like a pretty good card to slow Villain down and it would make for a cheaper showdown. Just curious.

KoW

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what he said.

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consider reraising pre.
the rest looks good... only thing i can do different post is possibly fold the river... possibly.... calling there is, however, pretty standard.

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Regarding the river: The fact that he didn't just shove and kept like 200 instead made it look an awful lot like a value bet to me. Possibly sorta thin like AA/AK. Is this generally correct thinking? It seems like if he was bluffing the whole way or had less than AK he would either give up on the river or shove on the river, and if he had a monster I thought he would also shove on the river. The hand I was most worried about was definately AA.

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Raise PF, and if you dont raise PF, raise the flop. See where he's at...

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ill warn you in advance this is a gay reply:

re-raise preflop sometimes. and without AK. you are 5-handed and the guy is active.

raise the flop sometimes, or call.

raise the turn to 250 sometimes, or call to induce a river bluff if he puts you on whiffed draw.

if you raise the turn, and he calls. and he checks the river, debate on making a thin value bet or be a wuss and check behind.

i would usually bet. because i don't like my opponents to get the impression i can be looked up by just calling one bet or raise.

but since you seemed geniunely worried about a hand here, your line is fine to take. just do not fold that river without a sick read after calling along.

i would take your line some % (30%?) of the time just to mix up my play and keep my bluffs consistent. a higher % of the time against very agg. players or serial bluffers.

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raise the turn to 250 sometimes

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It seems like this lets him get away from QQ/JJ too easy. And what do I do if he shoves after I raise?

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raise the flop sometimes

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Again, I dont see what a flop raise accomplishes. Unless he has QJ, it seems like its a WA/WB situation, no? If I raise the flop I feel like I am just bloating the pot and making it easier for him to stack me on the turn or river when hes ahead, and letting him fold cheaply when hes behind.

Why not just let him keep firing? Should I be looking to get my whole stack in on this hand?

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balancing mostly. i am raising the flop and turn both with a lot less than TPTK here enough that i need to have it some of the time.

but like i said against a very agg player of bluffy magee calling down is often an optimal line.

also becomes more attractive without reads. with the added bonus of finding out exactly what he raised UTG with, and fired 1/2 pot sized bets on each street OOP, which can be vital information.

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consider reraising pre.
the rest looks good... only thing i can do different post is possibly fold the river... possibly.... calling there is, however, pretty standard.

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Regarding the river: The fact that he didn't just shove and kept like 200 instead made it look an awful lot like a value bet to me. Possibly sorta thin like AA/AK. Is this generally correct thinking? It seems like if he was bluffing the whole way or had less than AK he would either give up on the river or shove on the river, and if he had a monster I thought he would also shove on the river. The hand I was most worried about was definately AA.

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everything you said is good... i am v concerned about AA here.

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also becomes more attractive without reads. with the added bonus of finding out exactly what he raised UTG with, and fired 1/2 pot sized bets on each street OOP, which can be vital information.

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I definately factored this in. He ended up showing A8o and from there on out I had him pegged as LAG and got to resteal alot against him.

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also becomes more attractive without reads. with the added bonus of finding out exactly what he raised UTG with, and fired 1/2 pot sized bets on each street OOP, which can be vital information.

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I definately factored this in. He ended up showing A8o and from there on out I had him pegged as LAG and got to resteal alot against him.

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when you say LAG, you mean RETARDED.

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i didnt notice the stack sizes, but with him short, im putting his last $200 here on the river.