Not betting the nuts...Is this common anywhere else?
 

Here in FL, we have this ridiculous state law limiting bets to $2 so I rarely play at the casinos here. However, with no power due to Wilma, i made the trip out to the casino this weekend.

The play is atrocious. But the weird thing to me was that on the river, players with the nuts often throw in the bet and show their hand before they're called. They seem to think it's sporting of them to just show rather than try to win the extra bet. I saw it at two different tables over the weekend here.

At one point I flopped the nut flush and someone was betting into me. I asked him, "did you flop it?" meaning a flush. He says, "yes." So I raised him, and we capped every street. When i showed my nut flush to beat his Q high, he got really pissed off, and someone else at the table agreed with him that I shouldn't have kept betting.

I've never seen anything this stupid. Why the hell are these people playing poker? Is this kind of crap common anywhere else?

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Here in FL, we have this ridiculous state law limiting bets to $2 so I rarely play at the casinos here. However, with no power due to Wilma, i made the trip out to the casino this weekend.

The play is atrocious. But the weird thing to me was that on the river, players with the nuts often throw in the bet and show their hand before they're called. They seem to think it's sporting of them to just show rather than try to win the extra bet. I saw it at two different tables over the weekend here.

At one point I flopped the nut flush and someone was betting into me. I asked him, "did you flop it?" meaning a flush. He says, "yes." So I raised him, and we capped every street. When i showed my nut flush to beat his Q high, he got really pissed off, and someone else at the table agreed with him that I shouldn't have kept betting.

I've never seen anything this stupid. Why the hell are these people playing poker? Is this kind of crap common anywhere else?

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Were you playing with old people? The only people I've seen do it are old ladies.

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1. Yes, this is pretty common, especially among the elderly.

2. You play poker??!?!?!?!???

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It happens up here in Colorado as well, where we have a $5 limit. Basically, sometimes the "good old guys" get together and want to be friendly and jovial, getting free drinks while they grind away hoping for a bad beat jackpot. I imagine this kind of behavior drastically drops as the limits go up.

Swede

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I'm not sure how common it is, but I saw some of the same (giving up potential winnings) in the no-limit game at Motor City in Detroit when I was there in December. I watched the no-limit (2-5) table for about an hour while I waited for a 50-200 (1-2NL) seat, and at least a couple times saw people just show the nuts (AK on a QJT rainbow flop is one I remember) rather than betting. Why anyone would do such a thing is beyond me, particularly when so many at the table seemed so willing to pay off with second-best or worse (JT vs T6 on a 987 flop, for instance).

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1. Yes, this is pretty common, especially among the elderly.

2. You play poker??!?!?!?!???

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These people were not elderly. And yes, I play poker.

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people just show the nuts (AK on a QJT rainbow flop is one I remember) rather than betting

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I would think this would be against the rules. Then again, it's a session fee game, isn't it?

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Why the hell are these people playing poker?

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To get out of the house and have some fun. Hang out and chat with some friends. It's either the poker room or the local bar for them.

My first trip to a Florida poker room at a greyhound track had me scratching my head (and building a massive pyramid of those grubby white chips), but it's a fun break from online poker. Imagine a table with 8 middle age or older people that show up with the idea that they will lose $X and go home - they have no intention of winning, 1 kid with sunglasses shuffling his chips, and you. It's downright hilarious.

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My first trip to a Florida poker room at a greyhound track had me scratching my head (and building a massive pyramid of those grubby white chips), but it's a fun break from online poker. Imagine a table with 8 middle age or older people that show up with the idea that they will lose $X and go home - they have no intention of winning, 1 kid with sunglasses shuffling his chips, and you. It's downright hilarious.

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I know what you mean. When I got up, I asked where to cash out and I swear one the regulars looked at and said he had no idea.

Where in FL was this? Miami? Flagler dog track?

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For some reason I always thought you lived in Texas.

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It happens up here in Colorado as well, where we have a $5 limit. Basically, sometimes the "good old guys" get together and want to be friendly and jovial, getting free drinks while they grind away hoping for a bad beat jackpot.


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This would make sense if Jake's opponent simply called down. But this guy did his share of raising and capping, too.

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it happen, i did it today at chances. a friend of mine made a raise i raised him back, but eveyone else got out i told him dont even bother. he showed aj and i showed him kk..i only did that cuz its my frined in the hand if anyone else came in i play different. I had a guy show me his straight cuz he knew im on flush draw..i think its common among regulars in cardrooms.

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Try blowing off those pansies and playing poker with REAL MEN and not a bunch of punk ass b****es who need a good nut kicking.

al

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For some reason I always thought you lived in Texas.

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I was born and raised in Texas. Living in Florida at the moment.

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Try blowing off those pansies and playing poker with REAL MEN and not a bunch of punk ass b****es who need a good nut kicking.

al

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Yea. As I said, there's a state law limiting things to a $2 max bet. I don't usually play there because of it, but Wilma has left me w/o Internet.

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it happen, i did it today at chances. a friend of mine made a raise i raised him back, but eveyone else got out i told him dont even bother. he showed aj and i showed him kk..i only did that cuz its my frined in the hand if anyone else came in i play different.

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I would have called the floor and complained about collusion. Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case: [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Regards,

T

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I've seen this type of play at every card room in the San Francisco Bay Area and in both limit and no limit play.

The people that show or do not bet the nuts typically either have a gambling mentality and don't care that much about the extra bet or have a weird set of social conventions related to poker.

I always thank them for saving me a bet, say nice hand and they don't seem too upset when I don't return the favor.


The guy that got mad about being asked if he flopped it and still betting/calling was just as greedy so he is retarded for being mad there. He just wasn't as smart.

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I would have called the floor and complained about collusion. Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case:

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That was my first thought. And I looked at the time and see about an hour goes by and it's unsaid! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Well, maybe it's just the 2 of us who have a "problem?"

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Yes, this is pretty common, especially among the elderly.



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LMAO!!!!

Maybe it's common among some elderly, but I know a room filled with elderly (me amongst 'em) who regulary bust the young guns dancin' in lookin' for an easy score. We laugh a lot, rag each other unmercifully and have a great time.

But when the cards are dealt, it's nut kickin' time. Checkin' it down is practically non-existent. HU means no limit on the raises and if you let your stack get low and can't take full advantage of the nut-whatever you're holding, you're gonna' hear about it.

OK, I'll put away my AARP card now.

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I have a guy in my home that won't raise with the nuts even though there are a couple of maniacs who will easily call three or four raises before they realize they are beat. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

These guys are just there to have fun. Let them have their fun and be happy that they will never stack you when they hold the nuts.

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I once did this because a guy was taking forever to make up his mind on calling my river bet. I placed my cards face up showing the nuts (Ace high flush with no paired board and no sf possible)and said "does this make it easier for you."
He looked at my cards and raised me. I reraised with my cards still up and he four bet me. I reraised and he looked again at my cards and then called. he showed a lower flush with a four to the straight flush.

Funny thing was that after the hand he told me that he thought he had the straight flush until he looked again after the 5th bet. I didn't ask why he called the the last bet.

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Funny thing was that after the hand he told me that he thought he had the straight flush until he looked again after the 5th bet. I didn't ask why he called the the last bet.

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Pot odds, duh.
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I wish these people would just die of old age already.

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makes sense... you can't bet the nuts but you can keep raising with the second nuts because if the other person doesn't have the nuts you know the second nuts is good. but to be fair, the second nuts shouldn't be allowed to go ape [censored] since he knows his opponent can't have the nuts. so now the third nuts can go ape [censored] so that shouldn't be allowed. the only solution to this is to outlaw betting

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Yes this is quite common.

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In AC last Friday night at a 3/6 limit table, it was heads up between old man and young whippersnapper. OM has T8o, I forget what YW has (A3o I think), but the board is 9c7h3cAs6d. On the river, OM checks, YW bets, OM says out loud, "Hmmm. I wonder if you have it.....Well, I'll call anyway."
-web

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Where in FL was this?

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I live in Orlando so if I want to play live I have to drive an hour to the Melbourne greyhound track or 1.5 hours to Tampa. I usually go to the greyhound track. I always have a good time and it's reasonably profitable (despite the huge rake and tip factor), but it's just not worth the drive more than once a month.

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I once did this because a guy was taking forever to make up his mind on calling my river bet. I placed my cards face up showing the nuts (Ace high flush with no paired board and no sf possible)and said "does this make it easier for you."
He looked at my cards and raised me. I reraised with my cards still up and he four bet me. I reraised and he looked again at my cards and then called. he showed a lower flush with a four to the straight flush.

Funny thing was that after the hand he told me that he thought he had the straight flush until he looked again after the 5th bet. I didn't ask why he called the the last bet.

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ahahahahaha