Well %&*(^, what to do now?
 

Party Skin. 2 retardos at table but not involved in this hand. Opponent is decent but a little weak. General table is loose agressive (due to 1 retardo maniac)

I limp with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in EP. 1 limper and villain raises in LMP. Folded to me and I call and other limper calls.

Flop A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Ok WAWB scenario. Limper clears out and I ck call.

Turn 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Glorius turn card. I ck call planning to lead any river card.

River 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Except that card.

What is your play?

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chop.

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i don't get it.

bet and hope he believes you have the 5th 3 and folds. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Bet, hoping that he'll call with something like JJ. Rake is a consideration as well.

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What limits? I ask only because the play differs depending on if the rake is capped yet or not. If it is, bet. If not, check-call.

Either way it doesn't really matter, since 99% of all opponents will realize this is a chop.

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Bet, hoping that he'll fold with something like JJ. Rake is a consideration as well.

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FYP

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What is your play?

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Fold preflop. Having said that, I would bet flop, lead turn. You are chopping at the river, check.

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No one can beat the board, therefore the hand will be chopped. Unless you think your opponent is such a donk that he will fold to a bet, just check/call. No need to decrease the chop by increasing the rake with a bet/raise.

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Check/Fold, he might have a Joker.

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Why not lead this flop and turn? I don't get it. I think that's really where you made your biggest mistake.

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Rake was not capped yet.

I wonder if a bet hoping the guy is dumb enough to fold is worth it in the thousands of times this happens to me every month.

I bet and he called and he had KK

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since there aren't really any party skins anymore... which one are you playing at, out of curiousity, and why? still fishy? still a sweet rakeback deal?

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I'd checkraise the turn. Most people will call the turn bet w/PPs and you also make him pay for his 2 outter. Theres no guarantee he'll call your river bet.

The way you played it is fine though, and you just got unlucky. There is nothing wrong w/the line you took and it is definatly a reasonable alternative

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I like the bet.

Yes, obviously, it's a chop unless there's a fifth 3 in the deck. But the few cents of lost rake by a needless bet/call are inconsequential. And if Villain does fold, it's a Hand for the Ages. It goes into the Poker Hall of Fame.

At low limits, I'm in favor of one or two sub-optimal plays/10,000 hands for sheer entertainment value. This one definitely passes the test.

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Party Skin. 2 retardos at table but not involved in this hand. Opponent is decent but a little weak. General table is loose agressive (due to 1 retardo maniac)

I limp with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in EP. 1 limper and villain raises in LMP. Folded to me and I call and other limper calls.

Flop A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Ok WAWB scenario. Limper clears out and I ck call.

Turn 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Glorius turn card. I ck call planning to lead any river card.

River 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Except that card.

What is your play?

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Preflop fold that crap, Flop/turn I like, River just lead maybe villain will be stupid and fold

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since there aren't really any party skins anymore... which one are you playing at, out of curiousity, and why? still fishy? still a sweet rakeback deal?

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You are right. Not a Party skin anymore.

I play at Euro. Honestly my win rate has remained the same. You do have to be willing to play 6 max though as full tables are dead at 1/2, 3/6 and 5/10

Its kind of interesting being the only American at a table also.

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Why not lead this flop and turn? I don't get it. I think that's really where you made your biggest mistake.

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Way ahead way behind scenario. If you are ahead you don't want to scare him off and if behind you lose the least amount possible on a hand you really need to show down.

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Preflop fold that crap

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Seen this a couple times here. If you aren't playing AXs in any position in a loose game you are missing out on profit.

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Those advocating folding: At a typical 5/10 table, which suited aces do you play in EP?

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Why are u c/c the turn? You're no longer WA/WB, but WA/ tied/ very rarely way behind.

As for the river, who cares? c/r him just to piss him off.

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Why are u c/c the turn? You're no longer WA/WB, but WA/ tied/ very rarely way behind.

As for the river, who cares? c/r him just to piss him off.

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I almost checkraised the turn but I thought it was possible he would fold and I could possibly get 1 more bet out of him on the river.

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bet the river...retardos don't read the board that well. I've seen them fold on AKQJT offsuit boards. Wouldn't surprise me if they fold to quads with an A out there.

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Why are u c/c the turn? You're no longer WA/WB, but WA/ tied/ very rarely way behind.

As for the river, who cares? c/r him just to piss him off.

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I almost checkraised the turn but I thought it was possible he would fold and I could possibly get 1 more bet out of him on the river.

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If you c/r this turn often times only an ace will call. Pocket pairs will likely fold. Calling and leading the river will often get one more bet.

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Preflop fold that crap

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Seen this a couple times here. If you aren't playing AXs in any position in a loose game you are missing out on profit.

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The games on Euro don't seem to be that loose. Loose is like 4-5+ to a flop most hands

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Why are u c/c the turn? You're no longer WA/WB, but WA/ tied/ very rarely way behind.

As for the river, who cares? c/r him just to piss him off.

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I almost checkraised the turn but I thought it was possible he would fold and I could possibly get 1 more bet out of him on the river.

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That's right, he is a little weak. How about a turn donk then? Chances are he knows u're a decent player and won't be calling the flop with crap, so he may check through the turn w/ JJ-KK, but get confused and call ur turn and river donks down. I don't dislike your line as much having now looked over the read.

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AT/s call, AK through AJ suited raise. I might go so far as A8 suited on a loose table. If the table is loose and raise prone, I would fold anything under A10 suited preflop because if you call the raise, you are losing money overall. They call me tight like that.

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Yes you are right. This particular table met these requirements. The 2 retardos made this a very sweet table