3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds</font>, Hero raises to $20</font>, 2 folds</font>, BB raises to $66</font>, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> BB bets $102</font>, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $126</font>, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $228</font>, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

This is about the worst possible flop. (Worse: KQJ, KKQ)

Forebodings aside, raise allin on the turn once you catch aces up. That card did not help him at all, he won't believe it helped you.

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

What's going to call that I'm ahead of, save for *maybe* Ace King (and that's stretching it).

Ryan

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

3 bet here for sure if you have a LAG image-- he might take your open from the cutoff as a steal, and then be delighted to get it in with kings preflop after you 3-bet.

Flop is good.

Turn... meh. I'd prefer a raise to 300 and take a free showdown. All in seems bad, but you almost ended up all in anyway on river, so might as well.

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

I should have added that my image shouldn't be laggish at this point, but more taggish.

Ryan

Results.
 

He had QQ and I lost a big pot.

Once that flop came down, I should have recognized that I was beaten. I guess I was hoping he had AK. A friend of mine suggested that I fold the turn - he thought it was unlikely that AK would fire again, but it was very difficult for such a small bet relative to the pot size. There's also certainly no guarantee that AK won't bet again. I think I certainly should have folded the river and I disagree with the posters who suggest for me to get it all-in on the turn, and I don't think I'm being results oriented.

Just a bad flop and a bad situation, I guess.

Ryan

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

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Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds</font>, Hero raises to $20</font>, 2 folds</font>, BB raises to $66</font>, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> BB bets $102</font>, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $126</font>, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $228</font>, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

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Because you *know* you should 3-bet it pre-flop why are you even continuing on this flop? Completely contradictory to what your pre-flop thoughts were. I don't mind just calling the re-raise sometimes but you've gotta let it go on this flop. This was played poorly.

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

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Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds</font>, Hero raises to $20</font>, 2 folds</font>, BB raises to $66</font>, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> BB bets $102</font>, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $126</font>, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $228</font>, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

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Because you *know* you should 3-bet it pre-flop why are you even continuing on this flop? Completely contradictory to what your pre-flop thoughts were. I don't mind just calling the re-raise sometimes but you've gotta let it go on this flop. This was played poorly.

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To continue on this point of view, the only time you should flat call the raise preflop is when you are pretty sure he is big pair (jj-kk). I would probably three bet preflop since I don't know much about him, but when you hit a flop like this and you are putting him on jj-kk, you gotta fold to his flop or turn bet.

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

raise the flop so you will lead the turn! Dont give him any "free" cards to his pocket pair!

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

Fold on the turn. That bet SMELLS.

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

Is raising all in on the turn a joke? If not it's really bad advice

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

This looks like a flop-fold as weak as it sounds. You're just asking to get yourself into trouble. KK/QQ/KQ/JT all are smoking you but KK/QQ are the more realistic. You have to 3-bet this preflop and make it a mistake for him to call. 1/8 flops a set, bet accordingly.

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

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Haven't played much with Villain but he doesn't seem out of line. In 50 hands he was 22/2, if that matters much. I know I should 3bet preflop but I like to mix it up. Should I play this any differently?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($324)
Hero ($590.25)
Button ($454.70)
SB ($598)
BB ($652.95)
UTG ($556.95)
UTG+1 ($600)
MP1 ($437.75)
MP2 ($916.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds</font>, Hero raises to $20</font>, 2 folds</font>, BB raises to $66</font>, Hero calls $46.

Flop: ($135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font> BB bets $102</font>, Hero calls $102.

Turn: ($339) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $126</font>, Hero calls $126.

River: ($591) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
BB bets $228</font>, Hero calls $228.

Final Pot: $1047

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i think mixing it up once in a while is a good thing. if you get a nice under card flop, you can sometimes stack him. however, the stack sizes are awkward such that you'll probably get committed to the hand post flop without being able to assess where you are in the hand. by the time you get information on his hand strength by raising into a bloated pot, you'll have lost a significant amount of money.

personally, i would raise the flop since my opponent is unlikely to stop firing if he has me beat, making me call him down, and will probably reraise with a strong holding, allowing me to fold. problem is a good sized raise is so much of your stack...

Re: 3/6 Stars AA vs a reraise
 

Yeah, I wanted to do this. Unfortunately, even a min. raise would essentially commit me at this point. It was just such an awkward flop. Seems to happen a lot like this when I don't 3-bet preflop. Maybe the poker gods are trying to tell me something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Ryan