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10-29-2005 11:29 AM

stupid question but I gotta ask
 

I try to run my home game by the proper rules of poker. It recently came to light we are doing the blinds wrong when in heads up play. WE had before, always had the dealer put in the BB and the other player the SB. It has been raised that this is backwards, and the dealer should be the SB.
As mentioned, we try to run by the proper rules, like what you would find in a casino. For example the tournrments directors ass rules.
Have we been doing the blinds wrong for standard casino play? Or, is there no stadard for blinds at heads up play.
Thanks in advance

Richard Tanner 10-29-2005 11:47 AM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
Dealer SB, Other player BB.

Cody

10-29-2005 11:52 AM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
This is actually a pretty common mistake in home games. The Button should be the SB.

smoore 10-29-2005 11:58 AM

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Dealer SB, Other player BB.

Cody

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Etaipo 10-29-2005 12:50 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
Here's the follow up question.

Who gets dealt the first card? BB or the button?

10-29-2005 12:57 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
Ok thanks guys, just wanted to make sure before we change things. One or two guys didn't really want to change as they play in other games that have the BB at the dealer.

Richard Tanner 10-29-2005 01:11 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
Ok I'll bite, BB.

Cody

10-29-2005 01:18 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
Then they play in f***ed up games.

dandy_don 10-29-2005 02:07 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Dealer SB, Other player BB.


[/ QUOTE ]

To add to the confusion, the Dealer is 1st to act before the flop, last to act after the flop.

From http://www.homepokertourney.com/button.htm :

[ QUOTE ]
Heads-up play
The small blind is the button and acts first before the flop and last after the flop. The player who does not have the button is dealt the first card.

[/ QUOTE ]

flatline 10-30-2005 12:41 AM

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Then they play in f***ed up games.

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Its not that big of a deal. I'd bet that most non-serious games do the blinds wrong in heads-up. Doesn't really matter.

smoore 10-30-2005 01:33 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
To add even further confusion, some online sites deal it backwards too.

As far as "correctness", it's a home game so if a rule is modified to fit the players, no biggie. It comes down to what the TD wants. If the TD wants it by the book then button = SB, if the TD wants it like the "other" games, ok then.

For strategy, it matters a great deal who the BB is in heads up play. If you search the tournament forums here back to nearly a year ago you'll find some strategy adaptations for "backwards" games. Unfortunately I can't remember any details about the thread.

10-30-2005 02:09 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
[ QUOTE ]
Here's the follow up question.

Who gets dealt the first card? BB or the button?

[/ QUOTE ]

The BB

sunek 11-01-2005 10:42 AM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
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To add to the confusion, the Dealer is 1st to act before the flop, last to act after the flop.


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Why is this confusing? Small blind alway act before big blind and it is always the person after the dealer who act first after the flop.

-sunek

wonkadaddy 11-01-2005 01:53 PM

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as a followup, our home tourneys used to have the sb wherever it happened to land (depending on the position of who busted in 3rd). so sometimes it'd be on the dealer and sometimes on the bb. now we always have a dead button hand if necessary to get it aligned right.

kodonnell 11-01-2005 05:21 PM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
I am not quite sure if this is correct, but when moving from 3 players to 2 players, we play the BB is the person who was not the BB last hand (or the hand before if neither were the BB). This way the same player does not get the BB twice in a row. The button goes to the other player.

Is this correct? It seems fair but not sure if correct.

smoore 11-01-2005 05:40 PM

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I believe a dead button hand is in order here, as one of the TDA rules says "Tournament play shall use a dead button" and makes no explicit ruling when 3rd place busts.

11-03-2005 12:49 AM

Re: stupid question but I gotta ask
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am not quite sure if this is correct, but when moving from 3 players to 2 players, we play the BB is the person who was not the BB last hand (or the hand before if neither were the BB). This way the same player does not get the BB twice in a row. The button goes to the other player.

Is this correct? It seems fair but not sure if correct.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is exactly how we do it... the BB moves to the next player, and the other player is the dealer.


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