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NLfool 10-29-2005 03:36 AM

Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
he get's almost no recognition but to me it's pretty damn amazing, almost as good as any run I've seen and to me you can get quite lucky in NL hold'em but in PL omaha to get a 1st in 02, 3rd in 03 + another final table, 2nd in O4, 2nd in 05.

I guess we americans are too simple and only those damn sophisticated Euros could appreciate the game [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Daliman 10-29-2005 04:36 AM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
He gets to use four cards, of COURSE he does well! that's like SIX holdem hands.

I'm amazed he ever loses at all..

10-29-2005 08:05 AM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
all the plo events except for this yrs 10K have been rebuy. consiering you can take a double add-on you can buy your way to a fairly healthy stack. at least half the field does not invest too heavy (one or zero rebuys)
i dont have any knowledge of how much williamson rebuys. just saying it is alot easier to make it closer to the end than the hold em events if your willing to rebuy alot. even dumb who cant play omaha made it pretty far with some aggressive rebuying.

Don Olney 10-29-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
The CAT can just flat out play this game---
and he is one of the few that is GREAT FOR THE GAME---
A class act and a hell of a guy

lighterjobs 10-29-2005 01:31 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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all the plo events except for this yrs 10K have been rebuy. consiering you can take a double add-on you can buy your way to a fairly healthy stack. at least half the field does not invest too heavy (one or zero rebuys)
i dont have any knowledge of how much williamson rebuys. just saying it is alot easier to make it closer to the end than the hold em events if your willing to rebuy alot. even dumb who cant play omaha made it pretty far with some aggressive rebuying.

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this is ridiculous. of course, he is going to be rebuying a lot, but to say the only reason he's got top three finishes four years in a row is because of rebuying is ridiculous.

MyMindIsGoing 10-29-2005 01:36 PM

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this is ridiculous. of course, he is going to be rebuying a lot, but to say the only reason he's got top three finishes four years in a row is because of rebuying is ridiculous.

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I agree totaly, how many rebuys and how you play during the rebuy period is part of the tournament strategy and will affect the outcome. The other persons could done the same. Saying someone won just beacuse he rebought more than the others (who said he did btw?) is just bs.

benkahuna 10-29-2005 03:32 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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all the plo events except for this yrs 10K have been rebuy. consiering you can take a double add-on you can buy your way to a fairly healthy stack. at least half the field does not invest too heavy (one or zero rebuys)
i dont have any knowledge of how much williamson rebuys. just saying it is alot easier to make it closer to the end than the hold em events if your willing to rebuy alot. even dumb who cant play omaha made it pretty far with some aggressive rebuying.

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Who's to say that his opponents don't rebuy as much as he does or even more? If that is indeed the case, your point about rebuys would be moot.

10-29-2005 07:03 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
i do not mean to take anything away from williamson. no matter how much he has rebought he has won a fortune at these tourneys and his record is extremely impressive.
my only point is if you are willing to take a full complement of rebuys you are gaining a pretty big edge on the rest of the field.
8000 starting chips which you can guarantee versus 2000 is a huge edge.
so if the field had 200 players i would consider it more like a 130 player field.

jojobinks 10-29-2005 07:30 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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he get's almost no recognition but to me it's pretty damn amazing, almost as good as any run I've seen and to me you can get quite lucky in NL hold'em but in PL omaha to get a 1st in 02, 3rd in 03 + another final table, 2nd in O4, 2nd in 05.

I guess we americans are too simple and only those damn sophisticated Euros could appreciate the game [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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i've never heard anything but respect for his game as an omaha player. so i'm not exactly sure what the OP means...

ClaytonN 10-29-2005 07:38 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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all the plo events except for this yrs 10K have been rebuy. consiering you can take a double add-on you can buy your way to a fairly healthy stack. at least half the field does not invest too heavy (one or zero rebuys)
i dont have any knowledge of how much williamson rebuys. just saying it is alot easier to make it closer to the end than the hold em events if your willing to rebuy alot. even dumb who cant play omaha made it pretty far with some aggressive rebuying.

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The rebuy period is fairly short when you compare it to the entire length of the tournament. Also, a lot of other people go nuts with the rebuys in events like that, so your argument is kinda weak.

RW3 rules.

SavageMiser 10-31-2005 09:54 AM

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WTF? Everybody else can rebuy, too, for crying out loud. And no one else has come close to this guy's record in PLO. I mean, geez, give the guy some credit.

lozen 10-31-2005 11:40 AM

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The CAT can just flat out play this game---
and he is one of the few that is GREAT FOR THE GAME---
A class act and a hell of a guy

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Agreed

wray 10-31-2005 02:26 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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The CAT can just flat out play this game---
and he is one of the few that is GREAT FOR THE GAME---
A class act and a hell of a guy

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Agreed

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Absolutly one of the nicest guys I ever met.

wray 10-31-2005 02:31 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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all the plo events except for this yrs 10K have been rebuy. consiering you can take a double add-on you can buy your way to a fairly healthy stack. at least half the field does not invest too heavy (one or zero rebuys)
i dont have any knowledge of how much williamson rebuys. just saying it is alot easier to make it closer to the end than the hold em events if your willing to rebuy alot. even dumb who cant play omaha made it pretty far with some aggressive rebuying.

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I won't be a jerk and ask for your facts about the amount of rebuys. But the rebuy tourney I played in (where RW III was to my right) I heard rebuy more than I heard the chips being shuffled.

RW III did rebuy a lot but like I said there were so many others that did the same. My guess would have been that there were more than just 1 add on or rebuy on the average.

10-31-2005 03:08 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
i played in two of the events thats how i know. as long as you are guaranteed to rebuy once and take the double addon. you are guaranteed a stack of 8000 when if you take no rebuys at all you start with 2K. i probably played at three tables and there were probably 3 people rebuying aggressively with most not at all. Thats all im saying.

wray 10-31-2005 04:26 PM

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i played in two of the events thats how i know. as long as you are guaranteed to rebuy once and take the double addon. you are guaranteed a stack of 8000 when if you take no rebuys at all you start with 2K. i probably played at three tables and there were probably 3 people rebuying aggressively with most not at all. Thats all im saying.

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Roger dodger

I guess there were just a lot more rebuys at the one I was at.

Jibbs 10-31-2005 07:49 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
Me too. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the WSOP this year. He was obviously dejected that he had just got knocked out of the $5000 PL Holdem tourney but was nice enough to talk to me for a bit as we were standing in line to get to the cage. Definitely a classy guy who doesn't get enough recognition.

NLfool 10-31-2005 10:37 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
ditto classy guy I got knocked out by him a few years ago in a low buyin for him $500. Drew out on me but one of the few "sorry's" that was actually genuine.

wray 11-01-2005 08:17 AM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
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ditto classy guy I got knocked out by him a few years ago in a low buyin for him $500. Drew out on me but one of the few "sorry's" that was actually genuine.

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I played a hand terribly against him. He cracked my AA with 5-9 getting an 8 on the river for a straight. He gave me the old "I'm sorry it was you but I'm glad it was me line".

11-01-2005 03:01 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
I think he's one of the most under appreciated players in the poker circuit these days... this guy is just absolutely amazing.

gobboboy 11-01-2005 03:03 PM

Re: Williamson\'s last few years PL Omaha record
 
I made this exact thread about a month ago and got about 3 replies.

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