Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
 

Over previous hour villian seems like pretty solid player. Has usually had goods when made a big move, but has been caught bluffing on one occasion.

Both of us have about 1200 in front of us

PF
Villian opens to 20 UTG+1
Hero in MP with TT raises to 60, villian calls

F: 924 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s
Villian bets 50, hero raises to 120, villian calls

T: 7 non heart
Villian checks, hero bets 200, villian calls after some thought

R: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (putting 3 hearts out)
Villian quickly bets 160, hero calls

Did ok? Too much? Can/can't call that river?--felt suspicious.

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Raise more on flop.

Bet closer to pot on turn.

River... that's a real ugly card... but your pot odds are so good, I don't know if I can fold.

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So I guess you think I underplayed it. Ok.
Don't read this as result-related, but should those calls make me think I'm already beat?

Thanks for the feedback, hopefully I'll get some more responses and I'll shoot out the results.

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Can/can't call that river?--felt suspicious.

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"Must" call the river.

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The problem with your bets/raises is that they define your hand fairly well without defining Villian's hand at all and you're giving villian great odds to try to draw out on you.

There aren't a lot of worse hands that can really call you down here, so your bets and raises should be to protect against the draw.


Against an aggressive player, I might gamble and check the turn both for pot control and to pick off a river bluff, but only if I had made a potish raise on the flop.

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Don't read this as result-related, but should those calls make me think I'm already beat?

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Every draw is calling you down with the odds you're laying.

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villian seems like pretty solid player

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Villian opens to 20 UTG+1


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Hero in MP with TT raises to 60

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Does that mean I'm stupid for not interpreting his play as a big hand pf?

The size of the raise was weird. I interpreted it as some kind of 'mix it up' raise or a monster. I expected him to rr if he had a monster being out of position.

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What's the blind structure - is BB $5 - is his raise 4x bb? That's what I read it as and assumed $20 would be a standard open - So I was pointing out that when a solid player makes a standard raise utg + 1 I would generally not be reraising w TT.

Given the action throughout the hand, doesn't he have JJ or QQ here a lot? If you're trying to rep AA, then that's OK I guess, but that wasn't the impression I got.

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I don't like your raise pre-flop, with a solid player raising from early position and the deep stacks a call is better in my opinion.

Given that you did raise you need to probably pop this hard on the flop and try to represent AA pricing out the draws. Any draw can call and KK-JJ will come along with the way you bet it.

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it's a weird spot to be in. any 9 or heart draw just made it and you're behind any other oddly played overpair but you have to call the river since you're getting such great odds. villain probably doesn't have a 9 since he raised UTG+1 and called a re-raise and the only other hands you're behind is a flush and a higher overpair. call that small river bet.
Also, re-raising tens preflop out of position isn't such a great idea since most flops you'll see will have a face card in them and it'll make it harder for you to play your hand.

Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
 

Although the bb is $5 the game is usually loose and astandard raise is a bit higher--around 30 to 35 if you want most to fold.

You hit it spot on though--he had KK and I shouldn't have rr. He thought I had aces is why he played it slow, and he was trying to move me off "my aces" with the river bluff.

I wasn't trying to rep aces, but his comment and of course the showdown when I saw it made me think I overplayed.

I guess this line (with Jim's modification of closer to pot sized bets to outprice draws) would have been ok if if our seats were shifted 4 seats back?--He opens MP/late MP and I play this from CO/button?

Thanks for the feedback all.

Greg

Re: Overplaying small overpair? live 5-3-2
 

The villain bet some really small fraction of the pot. Its smells like a blocking bet from a big pair. If you hadn't reraised, I'd suggest a raise all-in on the end. The villain will have to muck his bigger overpair most of the time. As it is I guess I fold. You've shown lots of strength, reraising an utg raiser and then raising flop and betting the turn. Every draw has hit so if he was playing something goofy it got there. The only hand you beat is a loosely played 88 and most people don't raise that utg.
Smooth call preflop. It gives you more options.

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Man, I don't play 10 handed often enough.

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What's the blind structure - is BB $5 - is his raise 4x bb? That's what I read it as and assumed $20 would be a standard open

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If he's playing at Lucky Chances like I think, then an limp open is the sum of the blinds, which is $10, and therefore $20 would be a mini-raise open. It is a weird open for $20 with KK, but against a solid opponent, I would also smooth-call only with TT.

Garland

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Can/can't call that river?--felt suspicious.

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"Must" call the river.

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"MUST" CAll, there are at least $920 , you need to put $160 : $920 ~1:6 odd.
if he bet $400 or more, I think you should fold...

for his weak bet at river, I am sure that he would like to see the cheap shown down...