why is this so annoying
 

1st level of $5 on stars
Hero's stack 1700, everyone else is around there and 1 stack is 3000
Hero dealt ATo UTG
Hero?

Re: why is this so annoying
 

this is an extremely easy fold

Re: why is this so annoying
 

argghh i know and in a larger buy in it would be for me too, but when buy in is <10 I find myself folding and then seeing A8 stacking A5 on an ace high flop

Re: why is this so annoying
 

Still gotta fold this in early position- why play a hand you can easily get in trouble with when you can find spots to outplay the terrible players at those low buy-ins?

Re: why is this so annoying
 

true and i do fold this, just wondering if anybody out there wanted to argue for anything else. AJ i fold too. AQ im putting in a standard raise. comments?

Re: why is this so annoying
 

I insta fold AJo here too.

Re: why is this so annoying
 

folds. not particularly close...

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I insta fold AJo here too.

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I insta fold AJo here too.

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I don't..and it's not even close. :-)

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this is an extremely easy fold

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I insta fold AJo here too.

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I don't..and it's not even close. :-)

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elaborate

Re: why is this so annoying
 

I think folding AJo is probably a mistake early on. people play REALLY bad postflop, so i'm pretty sure its +EV as long as you can play at all postflop. i mean i'm not a great NL player, but i feel like i usually have a pretty good skill edge postflop vs. these guys.

if its a rebuy, then a limp is even better(which it must be if the avg stack is 3k, right?) people play horrible early on in those rebuys, you need to play more hands to take advantage of it.

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In that position, I fold. In the lower buy ins, I tend to lag it up early on, to take advantage of the weaker players while they are still there. But, I only lag it up against the bad players, but at the same time, won't just push chips around, they love to call with air, so I like to have some sort of hand. Against the tighter players early on, I'll take advantage of their tightness.

Usually, I either end up with a nice stack after first hour, or run into a hand I wasn't expecting and bust.

Still, even lagging it up, that is an easy UTG fold, you have no idea who is going to act behind you yet, and it's a hand that will get you in trouble against a player with a tighter range many times.