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ALL1N 10-23-2005 09:55 AM

30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
Everyone knows this character. He's the guy who plays for a zillion hours a day (or so it seems) with LAG preflop stats (40/20 filtered 4-6) but who crawls into a shell postflop. He handreads remarkably well, but very very rarely bluffs.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">AlexLucas123 caps</font>, UTG calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (16 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, AlexLucas123 calls, UTG calls, Button folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">AlexLucas123 raises</font>

What do you do here with
-AK?
-JJ?

ggbman 10-23-2005 10:04 AM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
3 bet with JJ and check call the river if he caps. AK i puke a little bit, then call down.

nichtgut 10-23-2005 12:21 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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filtered 4-6

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HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I've been trying to figure it out for a long time. I can't find it under Preferences.

If you've been 3-betting his raises a lot he'd raise the turn here just out of frustration with a worse hand like QQ.
So I'd 3-bet both hands and probably fold the AK for a cap and call down with the JJ.

/NG

glen 10-23-2005 12:38 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
"HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I've been trying to figure it out for a long time. I can't find it under Preferences."

it's in the top-right corner of position stats. . .

James282 10-23-2005 12:49 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
What do you do with JJ? Seriously?
-James

nichtgut 10-23-2005 05:35 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Thanks Glen!

1800GAMBLER 10-23-2005 06:00 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
fold.

ALL1N 10-23-2005 09:08 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
Dunno if you're being sarcastic or dismissive or serious. But yes, it was a serious question. If you've played much with AlexLucas you will know what I mean.

NLSoldier 10-23-2005 09:18 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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Dunno if you're being sarcastic or dismissive or serious. But yes, it was a serious question. If you've played much with AlexLucas you will know what I mean.

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wow, i must have been giving alexlucas way too much action because I didnt have this super passive postflop read on him.

ALL1N 10-24-2005 09:05 AM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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fold.

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Anything more to say?

1800GAMBLER 10-24-2005 11:02 AM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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fold.

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Anything more to say?

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I'm not really adjusting my comments for this being against Alex, but you are either calling two bets to split for 6bbs or calling two bets to lose. So it's just math. KK AA are by far his most likely hands, as AK is unlikely to do this line. So fold AK.

JJ gets raised because of the presents of AA.

In short, you are against AA KK, so play whatever hand accordingly.

sthief09 10-24-2005 01:11 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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fold.

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Anything more to say?

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I'm not really adjusting my comments for this being against Alex, but you are either calling two bets to split for 6bbs or calling two bets to lose. So it's just math. KK AA are by far his most likely hands, as AK is unlikely to do this line. So fold AK.

JJ gets raised because of the presents of AA.

In short, you are against AA KK, so play whatever hand accordingly.

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I'd be pretty shocked to see him slowplay AA like that on a two-tone 2-broadway board.

1800GAMBLER 10-24-2005 01:46 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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fold.

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Anything more to say?

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I'm not really adjusting my comments for this being against Alex, but you are either calling two bets to split for 6bbs or calling two bets to lose. So it's just math. KK AA are by far his most likely hands, as AK is unlikely to do this line. So fold AK.

JJ gets raised because of the presents of AA.

In short, you are against AA KK, so play whatever hand accordingly.

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I'd be pretty shocked to see him slowplay AA like that on a two-tone 2-broadway board.

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as said, i don't have an history vs him. So you just call JJ here?

sthief09 10-24-2005 02:01 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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fold.

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Anything more to say?

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I'm not really adjusting my comments for this being against Alex, but you are either calling two bets to split for 6bbs or calling two bets to lose. So it's just math. KK AA are by far his most likely hands, as AK is unlikely to do this line. So fold AK.

JJ gets raised because of the presents of AA.

In short, you are against AA KK, so play whatever hand accordingly.

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I'd be pretty shocked to see him slowplay AA like that on a two-tone 2-broadway board.

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as said, i don't have an history vs him. So you just call JJ here?

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I got 5k hands on him in a database where I only import 4-6 handed and I have him as 38/19/1.16(.98/1.17/1.72 by street) with a 34 went to showdown. the OP confidently says he doesn't bluff.

is it even possible for this guy to have anything other than KK?

sthief09 10-25-2005 03:42 PM

bump
 
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1800GAMBLER 10-25-2005 05:12 PM

Re: 30/60 vs AlexLucas123
 
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fold.

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Anything more to say?

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I'm not really adjusting my comments for this being against Alex, but you are either calling two bets to split for 6bbs or calling two bets to lose. So it's just math. KK AA are by far his most likely hands, as AK is unlikely to do this line. So fold AK.

JJ gets raised because of the presents of AA.

In short, you are against AA KK, so play whatever hand accordingly.

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I'd be pretty shocked to see him slowplay AA like that on a two-tone 2-broadway board.

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as said, i don't have an history vs him. So you just call JJ here?

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I got 5k hands on him in a database where I only import 4-6 handed and I have him as 38/19/1.16(.98/1.17/1.72 by street) with a 34 went to showdown. the OP confidently says he doesn't bluff.

is it even possible for this guy to have anything other than KK?

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I don't understand why you would be so surprised at him slowplaying AA here? AK yes, i would.


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