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...because I love it.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $10.
UTG calls, Hero calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (4.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks,

Im open to suggestions for the name.

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Thats pretty badass. With one pair I'd check to induce a bluff too, but I usually feel like I have to bet with trips. Maybe a combination of the words Scrooge (becuase if you did this on christmas it would totally ruin his day) and pully becuase you're jerking this guy around. Hence, the scroo-pulley.

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It's called the 1/2 punch.

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The double dare? =/

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The double dare? =/

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this looks like the early front runner.

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The double dare? =/

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Ha, awesome.

Looks like this one is wrapped up. You need to patent another move though so we can call it the soiler.

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The double dare? =/

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Ha, awesome.

Looks like this one is wrapped up. You need to patent another move though so we can call it the soiler.

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haha ok.

does anyone have thoughts on this play? Or does everyone pretty much agree that it pwns.

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I like it overall but I think a lot of players will play like this without a draw. I see 7x play like this a lot and I doubt he'd bet the river. THere's also some smaller pocket pairs or like 88-99 who could play like this. Is there any chance he bluffraises the river with a missed draw or checked behind because he hit better trips or filled up? These are kind of remote but things to consider nonetheless.

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I have a few questions. I never know what is betting material in spots like this. You bet the flop here 3rd to act out of 5 in an unraised pot. Would you guys also usually have bet 1st or 2nd to act? If not, what would your line have been in those seats?

Also, would you guys typically bet the river here with just one pair of Tens (assume the turn was a blank) or would you check and call? What about with a 7?

Thanks,
Cartman

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does everyone pretty much agree that it pwns?

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id imagine!

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Is this a joke post? Cuz I don't get it at all...

Someone please splain it to the HUSH noob... (me)

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Is this a joke post? Cuz I don't get it at all...

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Have you never checked the river again after whiffing on a turn CR?

If not, you should try it sometime. Its awesome.

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I think the 3rd spade in this example just makes it look like the old "pussy on the river" play.

If the flush wasn't there, then it gets a new name.

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I think the 3rd spade in this example just makes it look like the old "pussy on the river" play.

If the flush wasn't there, then it gets a new name.

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huh? I checked intending to CR. Was that not super obvious?

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Yeah I realize that, but with the flush it "looks" like you wimped. I'm just saying the particular example wasn't perfect because of that possible perception.

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Yeah I realize that, but with the flush it "looks" like you wimped. I'm just saying the particular example wasn't perfect because of that possible perception.

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Who cares what it "looks like" if he extracts the guy's teeth?

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Am I going to get flamed if I say I don't like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The play is the exact opposite of a donk.
A reverse donk should be called a knod.

"You gave him the KNOD." Double meaning....also, the go-ahead to bet. The Knod.

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Ok I'm sorry I brought it up

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Am I going to get flamed if I say I don't like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Am I going to get flamed if I say I don't like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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lol not if you can give some good reasoning. why dont you like it?

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Am I going to get flamed if I say I don't like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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heh stfu.

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Am I going to get flamed if I say I don't like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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heh stfu.

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He was complimenting you!!!!!!

if someone was gonna insult you they'd say something like "this play is worse than using a toothbrush as a sex toy!!!"

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Am I going to get flamed if I say I don't like it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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heh stfu.

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He was complimenting you!!!!!!

if someone was gonna insult you they'd say something like "this play is worse than using a toothbrush as a sex toy!!!"

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Well, aren't you going to be swallowing back vomit if this river isn't bet here by villian?

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Well, aren't you going to be swallowing back vomit if this river isn't bet here by villian?

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If he checks through with a 7 or PP then yes. But those are not very likely of flop raising hands for him imo. If he checks through with a draw thats fine, our only chance of making anything was by inducing a bluff anywyas. More likely he has a pair he that will bet, that he checked the turn with to avoid the CR.

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But with a checked through turn, aren't we more likely to get called here anyway if we bet? Inducing a bet doesn't seem like it's something I want to be doing often. Too much risk in it backfiring to me [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I guess if you have a read on villian saying he's going to bet here then yeah that's great. But you seem to be making a general statement that this play is good to try . You didn't provide enough info for me on when this play is the [censored]...

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I'd call it "I should have donk bet the turn."

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How about the "fold preflop play".

Seriously though, is this a standard limp? Even with a poster it feels wrong from MP.

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The double freebee?
Or just "The free showdown with a strong hand"

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I'd call it "I should have donk bet the turn."

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We have a new winner.

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I'd call it "I should have donk bet the turn."

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We have a new winner.

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I dont think so. if we donk and he has a king hes just gonna calldown. if we check and he bets and we CR he will also calldown, if we check and he checks, we can just CR the river and make the same as we would ahve by donking.

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You're forgetting the times he'll fold to our check-raise, which will happen.

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You're forgetting the times he'll fold to our check-raise, which will happen.

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not when he has a king.

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Wow you really are a rock. Easy easy overlimp for me. T9s I'd raise to isolate without the poster..

-DeathDonkey

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Wow you really are a rock.

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but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part.

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meh, you can go for the CR anyway if he just calls the turn.

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Wow you really are a rock.

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but i already knew that, so really no need for the wow part.

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That is right biatch. Nobody can nit up a game like me.

I think you guys are getting carried away with this I'll isolate with 9Ts crap. I will be anxiously awaiting your PT screenshot that shows how profitable 9Ts or T8s is in this spot. I may very well be wrong and will gladly change my play when you convince with some data rather than the do this because i think it is good argument.

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meh, you can go for the CR anyway if he just calls the turn.

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ooo good point.

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I have a few questions. I never know what is betting material in spots like this. You bet the flop here 3rd to act out of 5 in an unraised pot. Would you guys also usually have bet 1st or 2nd to act? If not, what would your line have been in those seats?

Also, would you guys typically bet the river here with just one pair of Tens (assume the turn was a blank) or would you check and call? What about with a 7?

Thanks,
Cartman

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1st or 2nd to act I would rather CR at late position player. And probably check/call if the bet comes from an early pos. player.

With one pair of tens on the river, aftet the turn going check, check, yeah I would bet. WIth a 7 I think I check call.